Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder signs for comeback fight versus Curtis Harper

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #81
    Originally posted by sidefx996 View Post

    His four baby mamas and eight kids already spent it. Why do you thing he's fighting again?
    It is a well known fact that many baby mamas make great sparring partners... Just gets expensive when settling up...

    Comment


      #82
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      "Wah wah!! AJ fought better stiffs than Wilder wah" a split second of silence... "splash."
      In all reality he did fight better opposition but in that respect , they both suck and have kept this heavyweight division on hiatus

      Comment


        #83
        Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
        Fury's entire claim to fame is Wilder. Wilder fought Fury so he's got that going on! ​​

        Can it be because both were exposed when the fought on the elite level...just sayn?
        It is a fair point... One has to look at the film. Wilder shows explosive tendencies that catch his opponents. Also, a lot teeters on the image one has of Ortiz. Ortiz was a highly skilled boxer puncher, and had an undefeated record prior to facing Wilder. As far as evaluating Fury? His performance against Klitsko was textbook... You can literally count the techniques he applies in the ring with respect to movement, timing, footwork, etc.

        Wilder is no fluke, it does take an effort to deconstruct the nonsense that posters like Daggum blovate... If one decides that "Ortiz was old and a fluke" and that AJ "fought better competition than the rest" one can call Wilder a fluke... But the problem is this reasoning is incorrect.

        Comment


          #84
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          In all reality he did fight better opposition but in that respect , they both suck and have kept this heavyweight division on hiatus
          If you really take the time to look at whom AJ lost to, fought and beat, compare his relative losses, etc... It is hard to determine "better." Was Ruiz better than Tito Ortiz? Remembering that Ortiz was undefeated when he fought Wilder... And when we consider the losses, it compounds the notion that AJ hit a ceiling, before being beat by the best... Reality is, the general level of opposition at this time in the division is lacking...

          With all that said? I agree 100 that we need this division to move forwards, we have some real talent coming up the pike! Moses Ituama, Torres, Bakole... These guys are imo "better" than the last epoche of super sized heavyweights... Usyk brought that epoche to a close!
          Last edited by billeau2; Yesterday, 02:28 PM.

          Comment


            #85
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            If you really take the time to look at whom AJ lost to, fought and beat, compare his relative losses, etc... It is hard to determine "better." Was Ruiz better than Tito Ortiz? Remembering that Ortiz was undefeated when he fought Wilder... And when we consider the losses, it compounds the notion that AJ hit a ceiling, before being beat by the best... Reality is, the general level of opposition at this time in the division is lacking...

            With all that said? I agree 100 that we need this division to move forwards, we have some real talent coming up the pike! Moses Ituama, Torres, Bakole... These guys are imo "better" than the last epoche of super sized heavyweights... Usyk brought that epoche to a close!

            Reality is, the general level of opposition at this time in the division is lacking...​

            This ^^^^^^^^ is the right comment and unfortunately we’re stuck with two sub average fighters who their fans willingly or not , cheer for them and even place as goat

            Roflmfao
            billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

            Comment


              #86
              Originally posted by MulaKO View Post


              Reality is, the general level of opposition at this time in the division is lacking...​

              This ^^^^^^^^ is the right comment and unfortunately we’re stuck with two sub average fighters who their fans willingly or not , cheer for them and even place as goat

              Roflmfao
              Partially perhaps an age thing... When Tyson was becoming truly lethal, touted as "unbeatable" history gave boxing a wonderful gift: It turns out that around this time you had boxing trainers, pundits, who had been alive to witness the exploits of Dempsey, (even Johnson), up through Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, and Tyson. These men had seen several ideations of "unbeatable" heavyweights... This ability to compare based on experience was invaluable and was a wonderful offset to those exclaiming that Mike Tyson was the most murderous heavyweight to grace the division.

              The opinions of these men and the proclamation that "Tyson would be beat by a big heavyweight with reach" (Stated just prior to the Douglas fight), made for real knowledge and insight. The best heavyweights? Dempsey followed by Marciano... I know I know lol!

              Most boxing fans today do not have any experience or insight. They cannot understand the "problem" when a heavyweight is gassed on the 6th round, cannot throw but a few punches, have no defensive skills, etc. Most fans today have been duped... Boxing has become, for all intensive purposes an amateur sport regarding skill level. And trainers warned of this problem even as early as the mid eighteen hundreds!

              Comment


                #87
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                Partially perhaps an age thing... When Tyson was becoming truly lethal, touted as "unbeatable" history gave boxing a wonderful gift: It turns out that around this time you had boxing trainers, pundits, who had been alive to witness the exploits of Dempsey, (even Johnson), up through Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, and Tyson. These men had seen several ideations of "unbeatable" heavyweights... This ability to compare based on experience was invaluable and was a wonderful offset to those exclaiming that Mike Tyson was the most murderous heavyweight to grace the division.

                The opinions of these men and the proclamation that "Tyson would be beat by a big heavyweight with reach" (Stated just prior to the Douglas fight), made for real knowledge and insight. The best heavyweights? Dempsey followed by Marciano... I know I know lol!

                Most boxing fans today do not have any experience or insight. They cannot understand the "problem" when a heavyweight is gassed on the 6th round, cannot throw but a few punches, have no defensive skills, etc. Most fans today have been duped... Boxing has become, for all intensive purposes an amateur sport regarding skill level. And trainers warned of this problem even as early as the mid eighteen hundreds!
                No need to go any further than the nuthuggers who were in a tear of this site screaming that Canelo would go all the way up to heavyweight and challenge Usyk lol
                Boxing has become like all other sports with fans hoping on a bandwagon and hugging along
                Another problem is these morts as I call them believe everything they read on the internet even when it’s plain and simple lie if you use common sense
                Boots fans crying their guy didn’t duck and pointing out that Ortiz ducked Stanionis even though the mofo was fighting for his life

                lmao
                billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

                Comment


                  #88
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  If you really take the time to look at whom AJ lost to, fought and beat, compare his relative losses, etc... It is hard to determine "better." Was Ruiz better than Tito Ortiz? Remembering that Ortiz was undefeated when he fought Wilder... And when we consider the losses, it compounds the notion that AJ hit a ceiling, before being beat by the best... Reality is, the general level of opposition at this time in the division is lacking...

                  With all that said? I agree 100 that we need this division to move forwards, we have some real talent coming up the pike! Moses Ituama, Torres, Bakole... These guys are imo "better" than the last epoche of super sized heavyweights... Usyk brought that epoche to a close!
                  joshua beat 8 top 10 guys. wilder beat 2. guys like wlad, parker, whyte, and ruiz are better than any wilder win. yes ruiz is better than ortiz. he beat joshua, ortiz, and the parker fight was dead even. ortizs only notable win is jennings. not close? we are really taking the time to look at things and its not looking good here for wilder.

                  the division wasnt lacking and even if it was wilder was lacking in courage to face the top guys which makes him look ever worse! it was a weak division according to you and yet wilder didn't want to fight anyone in a weak division...uh hello. that should tell you he was a fraud right? remember he didnt want wlad, then he didnt want joshua, and on top of that he barely fought anyone else while fighting guys like spilzka, washington, molina, etc...thats tune up level opposition.
                  Last edited by daggum; Yesterday, 03:00 PM.
                  BoxOfficer BoxOfficer likes this.

                  Comment


                    #89
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post

                    joshua beat 8 top 10 guys. wilder beat 2. guys like wlad, parker, whyte, and ruiz are better than any wilder win. yes ruiz is better than ortiz. he beat joshua, ortiz, and the parker fight was dead even. ortizs only notable win is jennings. not close? we are really taking the time to look at things and its not looking good here for wilder.

                    the division wasnt lacking and even if it was wilder was lacking in courage to face the top guys which makes him look ever worse! it was a weak division according to you and yet wilder didn't want to fight anyone in a weak division...uh hello.
                    Top ten out of 100 top losers great!!! According to your alphabet soup some slouches are top slouches, others better. Lol. Again, medoicre opponents far and wide. Ortiz had skills, Parker has just developed these skills recently.... Ruiz and Parker are not categorically better than Ortiz. Your whole concept of rankings is subjective. It ignores the obvious.

                    Comment


                      #90
                      Originally posted by hitmanjosh View Post

                      Yo **** sound a bit racist, fo real!
                      He has 8 kids with four different women he's not married to. I'm just stating the facts snowflake.
                      MulaKO MulaKO likes this.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP