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    #11
    I had the first fight a draw, but it could have gone either way. Bivol boxed beautifully (they both did), but I was slightly leaning towards Beterbiev due to his work in the championship rounds; the educated pressure and aggression; that will to win. I actually have a feeling Beterbiev stops Bivol this time (and I consider myself to be a fan of both men). Artur was coming off a bad injury (regardless of how he and his camp downplayed it) with relatively short rehab time after the op. As long as he hasn't picked up any new injuries due to his age then he has every reason to be fitter for this fight. I think the immediate rematch favours both fighters, but Beterbiev especially as he'll have two back to back camps (more or less), more activity, and should be sharper. If the stories from his last camp were true and he wasn't running much to spare his knee then I think we'll see Beterbiev start faster this time. He also knows exactly what he has in front of him this time. Bivol is a brilliant boxer but I don't know if he can improve on that performance except for maybe not running as much in the last couple of rounds. He did manage to buzz Beterbiev a couple of times when he held his fight and punched with him, but it took a lot of skill on his part (and a little good fortune) to avoid getting caught clean at the same time. His best chance of winning is actually the one thing that could get him knocked out and that's being a little bit more aggressive. Of course, he could just box the same fight again, get through the 12, and because a lot of people felt he was robbed, he may get the nod this time. I just have a feeling Beterbiev starts faster and catches him this time. I don't think it will be the same fight again; I think we could be in for more drama and a few surprises.
    Last edited by BoxerWriter; Yesterday, 12:28 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BoxerWriter View Post
      I had the first fight a draw, but it could have gone either way. Bivol boxed beautifully (they both did), but I was slightly leaning towards Beterbiev due to this work in the championship rounds; the educated pressure and aggression; that will to win. I actually have a feeling Beterbiev stops Bivol this time (and I consider myself to be a fan of both men). Artur was coming off a bad injury (regardless of how he and his camp downplayed it) with relatively short rehab time after the op. As long as he hasn't picked up any new injuries due to his age then he has every reason to be fitter for this fight. I think the immediate rematch favours both fighters, but Beterbiev especially as he'll have two back to back camps (more or less), more activity, and should be sharper. If the stories from his last camp were true and he wasn't running much to spare his knee then I think we'll see Beterbiev start faster this time. He also knows exactly what he has in front of him this time. Bivol is a brilliant boxer but I don't know if he can improve on that performance except for maybe not running as much in the last couple of rounds. He did manage to buzz Beterbiev a couple of times when he held his fight and punched with him, but it took a lot of skill on his part (and a little good fortune) to avoid getting caught clean at the same time. His best chance of winning is actually the one thing that could get him knocked out and that's being a little bit more aggressive. Of course, he could just box the same fight again, get through the 12, and because a lot of people felt he was robbed, he may get the nod this time. I just have a feeling Beterbiev starts faster and catches him this time. I don't think it will be the same fight again; I think we could be in for more drama and a few surprises.
      I guess we’re on the same page
      More or less this is how I see it going down
      Possibly the late ko if the runner decides to exchange

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        #13
        I thought it was a draw, but Beter was more active in the championship rounds, which gave him the edge needed to secure the win.

        It was incredibly close and only one judge, IMO, got it right.

        I'm almost favoring another draw, but unless Artur sleeps Bivol, they'll give the latter a decision for trilogy's sake.

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          #14
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
          Beterbiev will show much less respect for Bivol and will start where he left off in the 12th round from the first fight
          He took Bivol’s best punch and wasn’t fazed to say the least
          By Artur jumping on him early , I expect this time Bivol to actually attempt to fight the man and consequently losing this fight by ko

          Long live The King Artur
          Agreed...I think that Bivol will fight more aggressively in the rematch because he NEEDS to in order to secure a decision in a Musl1m country after the first fight. Also, let's not forget that he took Beterbiev's best punch too without getting wobbled which will encourage him to fight more aggressively second time around. However, I think this will ultimately be his undoing and he'll get dropped (but probably NOT stopped) and lose by a wider margin on the scorecards like Usyk vs. Fury 2.

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            #15
            Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

            Agreed...I think that Bivol will fight more aggressively in the rematch because he NEEDS to in order to secure a decision in a Musl1m country after the first fight. Also, let's not forget that he took Beterbiev's best punch too without getting wobbled which will encourage him to fight more aggressively second time around. However, I think this will ultimately be his undoing and he'll get dropped (but probably NOT stopped) and lose by a wider margin on the scorecards like Usyk vs. Fury 2.
            Not sure if he took Beterbiev’s best punch but it don’t matter
            Respect is going out the window on this one and I expect it to be a late ko

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              #16
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              whatever you say little fattie

              Artur couldn’t come close to knocking Bivol down

              whereas Artur has been dropped multiple times

              and they weren’t exactly devastating punchers

              poor mula dksal
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              Y D K S A B



              Soviet Style


              Kitty or Kunt


              lmfao

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                #17
                Bivol and Beterbiev pretty much neutralized each other. Judges gave it to Beterbiev and Beterbiev fans celebrated like he won by a KO lol.

                I think Bivol wins a rematch.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                  Not sure if he took Beterbiev’s best punch but it don’t matter
                  Respect is going out the window on this one and I expect it to be a late ko
                  Well Bivol was the first fighter to go the full distance with him plus Beterbiev came on STRONG in the championship rounds hitting him with everything he had which Bivol effectively took off. Anyhow, I favour Beterbiev in the rematch too but by a wider decision on the scorecards as opposed to a stoppage.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

                    Well Bivol was the first fighter to go the full distance with him plus Beterbiev came on STRONG in the championship rounds hitting him with everything he had which Bivol effectively took off. Anyhow, I favour Beterbiev in the rematch too but by a wider decision on the scorecards as opposed to a stoppage.
                    I can see the stoppage
                    No more fughin respect , Artur chewing him up and spitting him out so T-Kitty can lick his wounds
                    lmfao

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                      using this logic Bivol’s cousin Madrimov will be in good hands in his next fight

                      Uzbeks are team pork is awful. And they’ll be fighting in the land of pork is awful

                      Judges gave rounds to Artur because he threw more

                      Bivol options are as follows:
                      1. Fire more himself to prevent being outthrown again
                      2. Clinch to keep Artur’s hands at home
                      I think Bivol will lean towards the first option.

                      Bivol handspeed advantage, long guard, Soviet Step, left hook, and chin will see him through

                      Artur is a very good but not iron chin. Artur is hurt this time

                      I’m not sure there is any scoring advantage of being on team pork is awful

                      At the weigh in we heard chants for Bivol not Beterbiev. Where were the Muhammad bros

                      Turki got out of his chair and was standing in shock when he thought Bivol could get stopped

                      Turki immediately stood on Bivol’s side of the ring after the final bell

                      Plus the judges were all white boys. Buncha Europeans from what I remember. Probably believers of the cross
                      Lol agreed but at the end of the day it was a very CLOSE fight with Bivol leading in overall punches landed (by 5) yet Beterbiev walked away with the victory. Therefore, despite Turki's and the crowds antics, I can't help but think that religion might have played a part in the outcome of the fight plus most fans on this forum were saying the same thing. Anyhow, it was an extremely close fight with one judge scoring it a DRAW and the other giving it to Beterbiev by 2 rounds so we'll just have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

                      As for the rematch, I fully expect Bivol to do just that little bit extra i.e. fight more aggressively (since he was the first fighter able to handle Beterbiev's power) and to maintain the same intensity for all 12 rounds instead of taking the championship rounds off which ultimately cost him the fight. However, like I said before, I suspect he took the final 3 rounds off due to a combination of fatigue and damage sustained so he may NOT be able to go full speed for all 12 rounds. Also, if he fights more aggressively second time around in order to secure the decision, there's a danger that he gets CAUGHT and dropped (but probably not stopped) by Beterbiev.

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