I'd like to see it. It may not be relevant in terms of championships or who is closer to the top, but it's still a good fight between two rivals who should have fought each other in their primes but didn't....similar to Brook vs Khan.
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There's only like 2 you can place over them definitely. That's Usyk and DuboisOriginally posted by MulaKO View PostComment
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No, I want usyk to fight zhang, bakole, yildrim, parker, as I want usyk to pull away from being the best cruiserweight since holyfield talk.Originally posted by Asmodeus View Post
DDD win is already on usyk resume. Of course usyk v Ddd should happen too, there's the issue of low blow controversy still unresolvedLast edited by hugh grant; 01-03-2025, 09:06 AM.Comment
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It's a massive fight between two of the best heavyweights of this era. It will sell huge, dictate who is actually the better of the two, and will setup one of them for another title fight where they'll likely be favourite depending on who is holding the belt they target at the time.
Irrelevant? Not even slightly. The above are just indisputable facts.
I assume the critics on this thread either don't really believe what they're saying, or they simply don't follow boxing.Comment
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I will gladly stream this, but let it be a retirement clash for both guys. I'm far past ready to see the next gen take over the division.Comment
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It should still happen for sure. It doesnt have the meaning it once did but they're still two big stars with a little left in the tank.
I would favour Fury but I think people are underestimating AJ a little in that fight. Yeah he looked terrible vs Dubois, but Fury hasnt even fought Dubois. Other than that his performances vs Usyk were fairly comparable and he was much better vs Ngannou and Wallin (granted there was a big gap between Fury and AJ fighting Wallin). Fury has more raw talent but he lacks power, It also seems like hes getting more hittable and less durable in recent times as he gets older.Comment
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I don't think Anthony Joshua should focus too much on Tyson Fury 'Because? I honestly believe that Tyson Fury and his team, have never been enthusiastic to fight Anthony Joshua'.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if Tyson Fury enters into radio silence, on the topic of Anthony Joshua in these next coming months 'It has always been in my opinion, Fury's most stylistically difficult fight outside of Oleksandr Uysk'.
The fight as I have stated on other threads, is still one of the biggest fights 'That can be made in the sport, easily top-3 biggest overall boxing events that can happen in 2025. If people are really honest? Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury, even at this stage of their careers is a bigger and more historically significant fight than Dmitry Bivol vs Arthur Beterbiev I & II'.
Tyson Fury, his hardcore fans and team 'Can no longer claim that Fury, is better than Joshua. There is no clear number 2 Heavyweight of this era, but? A debate and case can definitively be made for both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua for that number 2 ranking position'.
At at this stage of each fighters careers, when you really analyse the fighters resumes and individual performances 'Tyson Fury really does not have any clear evidence to prove that he is the number 2 Heavyweight of this era'. Which I have recently highlighted, and spoken about in previous boxing discussions.
There is now too much mounting evidence, where boxing analyst can clearly see that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'Are not miles apart in terms of ability. Anthony Joshua has numerous times beaten common opponents with Fury, in by far more impressive fashion. Anthony Joshua also in my opinion, over the 24 rounds he competed against Oleksandr Uysk? Joshua overall fought a more balance, and efficient fight in both contests'.
The statistical comparisons between both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua's efforts vs Oleksandr Uysk also tell this story 'And I will post them here below'.
Note: Anthony Joshua over his two fights with Uysk, produced a work rate superior to Tyson Fury's 'Joshua threw 641 punches in the first fight, and then 492 punches in the rematch. Joshua's second fight with Uysk, showed that tactically? He was attempting to manage his pace more efficiently, which he did. But Uysk in response to this threw 712 punches. Out of all 4 Heavyweight titles fights vs both Fury and Joshua, Oleksandr Uysk produced his highest work rate vs Anthony Joshua II'.
Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I personally regard that fight, as the absolute peak version of Uysk. Uysk vs Joshua was throwing on average 300 + more punches than he did vs Tyson Fury I & II.
And people need to factor this in? The highest amount of punches, Uysk landed on Anthony Joshua 'Was during their rematch. 170 Punches. The highest amount of punches Uysk landed on Tyson Fury, was 179 punches during their rematch. Oleksandr Uysk was also able to land 170 punches on Tyson Fury in their first fight'.
Anthony Joshua in his two fights vs most likely a better version of Oleksandr Uysk 'Was never hurt anywhere near to the level that Tyson Fury was vs Oleksandr Uysk'.
The only people sense who? Are criticising this match up, are predominantly hardcore Fury fans, and critics of Anthony Joshua. And the reason why they are very pessimistic and negative about the fight taking place, is because? They are extremely apprehensive of Anthony Joshua inflicting another loss of Tyson Fury's resume, which would actually be Fury's fourth consecutive loss in a row.
Tyson Fury has lost his last three fights, Fury did not beat Francis Ngannou. 'And we have just witnessed him being beaten by Oleksandr Uysk twice back to back. Pushed around the ring, smashed up, and out boxed over the duration of 24 rounds of competitive action'.
In my opinion, right now? From the high place that Tyson Fury once was, he is now in a worst career position than Anthony Joshua 'There may be people who attempt to disagree with this observation of mine. But I honestly believe Tyson Fury's reputation, and prestige as a Heavyweight fighter has been decreased way more than Joshua's since the beginning of 2023'.
Anthony Joshua in comparison, since he was beaten by Oleksandr Uysk I & II twice back to back 'Has always been gaining momentum steadily, and then suddenly there was a dramatic spike in the statistics. When Anthony Joshua stepped up and defended the entire sport of boxing, from it's biggest existential threat of the century in Francis Ngannou'.
People may attempt to play down, and discredit that victory 'And the seriousness of Francis Ngannou's threat, at that time in boxing history. But the facts of the matter are? Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury, who apparently was the then number 1 lineal world Heavyweight Champion'.
Tyson Fury if he was the fighting man, he claims to be 'He really should of made the rematch vs Francis Ngannou II. This time beat Ngannou for real, and leave no doubt in the combat sports world. Of who the number 1 Heavyweight boxing Champion is on the entire planet'.
But instead Tyson Fury, did not behave in this manner 'Fury showed zero incentive of re-matching Ngannou, therefore? I would not say that Tyson Fury damage the sport of boxing. Because what people must understand is, that Boxing is prizing fighting. It is not a elitist sport, where certain people are discriminated against and disallowed or prevented opportunities. Francis Ngannou as a great combat sports athlete and Champion, has every single right 'To compete in boxing, and regard himself as a boxer once he steps inside the ring'.
Regardless, boxing as entity was calling out for it's defender 'A counter attack was imminent. There was much talk, excuses made and deliberation in the aftermath of Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury'.
Many people in the wider combat sports world, were starting to believe that Francis Ngannou could beat all Heavyweight fighters 'They could not comprehend, or understand how this man could be hurt by a punch. Francis Ngannou in his entire combat sporting career, had never been hurt by a punch, kick, elbow or knee'.
Francis Ngannou was being built up as being invulnerable to physical attacks, and having mass destructive power within his punches.
Lets all be real and honest, there was much talk 'But no Heavyweight fighters, were stepping up to challenge Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury did not greatly protest his performance, he did not call for the rematch, Deontay Wilder did not step to Francis Ngannou and neither did Oleksandr Uysk'.
Note: On March 8th 2024 'Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game, Joshua confronted Ngannou head on in the area of his game where he is most effective and destructive. Anthony Joshua completely, obliterated and decimated Ngannou in this area. That is why the loss impacted him so severely, and I warned people before the fight? That potentially Francis Ngannou was going to suffer the worst lost of his entire combat sporting career, and that is precisely what happened'.
Anthony Joshua not only defended the sport of boxing when he beat Francis Ngannou, he dramatically altered the fundamental universal paradigm that certain folk were accepting as reality. A Heavyweight boxer, has just obliterated one of the most formidable Champions in Mixed Martial Arts History.
Such was the extreme of Joshua's victory it has sent shockwaves around the world 'Those shockwaves have altered the perception that fighters have of Ngannou. Whether Ngannou decides to continue in boxing or mixed martial arts, fighters are going to be confronting him differently now'.
Tyson Fury did not damage the sport, with his inability to show a great Champions conduct 'What Fury did was damaged and for a brief moment in time devalued the Heavyweight Championship of the world'
For the most part of sports history, there have only really been two global titles and feats of achievement 'That have dominated society, beyond just materialistic motives. And those titles are the Olympic title and the Heavyweight Boxing Championship of the world'.
The Heavyweight boxing Championship of the World was 'Once upon a time, the greatest individual title. That any man could aloft'.
To conclude: Dorian Yates was a Champion body builder 'Who has won six consecutive Mr Olympia titles. From the years of 1992 to 1997. When Yates first won The Mr Olympia title, he stated that he understood that he had conquered physical reality'.
And that is precisely what the Heavyweight Boxing title represents on a fundamental level 'When you take away all the materialism, and sociological factors. That people believe are a part of nature, and competition. You will realize that great Champions and athletes in the applied field, what they are really doing is conquering aspects of physical reality. And specifically? The Heavyweight boxing title, has for the most part of mankind's history, has been regarded as the greatest individual title. That any individual man could aloft'.
For a brief moment in time under Tyson Fury's reign in my opinion, the prestige of the Heavyweight title dropped 'To its lowest standard inside the boxing ring, that I think the sport has witnessed in this modern era. Tyson Fury was beaten by a novice Heavyweight boxer in Francis Ngannou, Fury never rematch Ngannou. And just left the sport to deal with the collateral damage, that had occurred as a consequence of such a performance'.
Anthony Joshua was the fighter and former Champion, who stepped up and dealt with the collateral damage 'And confronted the threat of Francis Ngannou, not Tyson Fury. When the sport needed a defender, Anthony Joshua put himself in that position and behaved like a Champion'.
If and when Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury fight is made 'Fury will be the favourite. But only with people who like making bets, that is it. In every other aspect of this matchup? Anthony Joshua will be the fighter, who the people on the street are backing and wanting to win. I am specifically referring to British Boxing, and potential even within the boxing community Worldwide'.
Anthony Joshua may not be the favourite to win the actual fight, but people are going to want Joshua to win 'I don't think Tyson Fury, or his hardcore fans particular like that type of dynamic against Anthony Joshua'.
It is a mega fight, easily top-3 biggest fights that can be made in 2025 'Two of the three Heavyweight Mountains of this era, potentially colliding in their highest ever jeopardy fight. Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury is without a shadow of a doubt, the most historically significant Heavyweight match up that can be made outside of another Undisputed World Heavyweight title fight' etc.
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