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At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post"If he wants a big name and wants to fight the best, no catchweight," Cotto said of Pacquiao. "Making catchweights is easy for them. They make the other guy have trouble making weight and they take advantage of that. I wasn't going to do that again. I am 154 pounds. I am not going to fight at a catchweight and make myself weak."
~ regarding Pac's demands
The CW King was not going to give in, either
Like how Oscar is talking now they found those brakes in the Atlantic Ocean
BOXING NEWS 24 MENU FANTALK TICKETS RESULTS SCHEDULE Boxing News – Cotto: “Not Impressed With Pacquiao” By Boxing News - 06/23/2009 - Comments By Manuel Perez: In an interview with elnuevodia, WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto said that he could care less if he has to fight Manny Pacquiao at the 145 pound catch weight that he and his management team want him to fight. Saying “it does not matter if it is at 145 pounds. That was the weight that we said from the beginning and it’s my range. I will increase it by eight to ten pounds [by fight time].” Cotto also said that he was no impressed with Pacquiao’s recent fights, commenting “he [Pacquiao] has two arms and so do I.”
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
Hatton wanted that work more than Pac did
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
Canelo, at the time, was still an emerging talent being carefully developed into a future star, which is why he was matched for the vacant WBC title against a less threatening opponent in Matthew Hatton. Golden Boy Promotions, recognizing Canelo's potential but acknowledging his inexperience, would never risk putting a green prospect against the pound-for-pound king, Manny Pacquiao. Meanwhile, Pacquiao, already an established icon with a wealth of high-profile opponents available in his natural weight classes, had no pressing need to campaign at 154. His brief stint in the division was more about achieving accolades than long-term competition.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
That's incorrect he was offered a career high 8 million to fight Margarito, he turned that down and instead fought Carlos Baldymir for 8 million and a penny. With the same promotional co
Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight.
However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked.
What Arum wouldn't do, he said,was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
($10M Miguel Cotto and $10M Ricky Hatton)
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million
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Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
Yeah neither guy was prime. Though a older defensive guy typically beats an older offensive guy whose style worked in his prime. Add the fact that there was an injury, Floyd looked a lot bigger, and Pac had no chance. He had all the cards stacked against him. Though that's fine. He represents the difficulty immigrants have in this country where they're not given a fair shake always and have to deal with disadvantages to try and get ahead. Floyd is like the spoiled American super star who gets everything he demands including stipulations to disadvantage his opponent.
The easiest imagery of what happened that I can compare this is to Gladiator 1, if you ever watched that. Right before Commodus goes to fight Maximus in the arena, he stabs Maximus in the back shoulder area, tells the dude to strap on the armor to cover the wound, and then go up in front of the big lights (bringing it back to the Pac-May match) and looked like a stud in front of the unknowing crowd. Yet you know what he did and are cool with that. Incredible.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
Okay. Time for the lies to stop. That's not what happened.. This is how it went down. These are the facts straight from Arum's mouth.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito,
For the record he fought Baldymir next not Oscar.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
So yeah this confirms he was offered 8 million to fight Margarito and turned it down. Why he turned it down is irrelevant. No lies told.
For the record he fought Baldymir next not Oscar.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
Yes it is relevant. That's why you left it out of context. You don't want the full version of what happened because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Fancy saying the reason somebody does something is irrelevant, I cant even fathom the child like brain that would come up with that comment, and he used it to dispute your post that explained the whole process with proof while pulling an out of context snippet, man, with him you are dealing with a first class idiot.joseph5620 likes this.
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1) Beat Cotto - while powerful and deceptive, he would countered and not land much of any significance. Cotto has almost no chance of cracking Floyd's defense.
2) Beat Canelo easily - Canelo's biggest successes came against fighters who did not move well. At Caneloweight, Canelo has no chance. He would stand a better chance at 160 where he had a puncher's chance.
3) Sugar Shane - Floyd wins. Mosley got outboxed by Forrest..I assume Floyd can do the same.
4) ODH - oof this is the tough one.. I'd say Floyd loses to prime Oscar. Their fight later on was close, so you gotta figure Oscar does better when he's younger and doesn't have a drug problem yet.
5) Pac - I'm not touching this one. We'll never know, let's leave it at that.
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