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BIVOL DECLARES 'I HAVE THE POWER to KO Artur Beterbiev' in rematch

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    #21
    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

    That would be a delightful scene costing Bivol to be looking up into the lights
    I want to see Bivol go into a second gear, more than likely he will get hurt but I want him to dare to be great.

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      #22
      Bivol's defense and counters had Beterbiev not coming forward as hard, if anything it was a technical fight. Once he timed Bivol better and started to look like he didn't have enough energy he started the pressure. This is still a 50/50 fight because both guys can improve on their last performance and know more or less what to expect.
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        #23
        Originally posted by dannnnn View Post

        I'm sure he felt Artur's power, but there's a difference between being in pain and being stunned by a shot. I only spotted the latter from Beterbiev.

        To be clear, I'm not suggesting Beterbiev was out on his feet or anything, just that it is not so far-fetched an idea that Bivol could win by stoppage since he clearly carries the power and accuracy to ring Artur's bell.
        In this sport any given day , a knockout is possible
        What I’m saying is it’s highly debatable that he gets a knockout against Artur
        And Bivol finished that fight like a wounded animal
        This time I can see Beterbiev starting way faster and showing much less respect to Bivol eventually getting the big knockout

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          #24
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post

          I want to see Bivol go into a second gear, more than likely he will get hurt but I want him to dare to be great.
          He’s already said that more movement is what is needed for him to get the win
          It’s all gibberish talk about him wanting to Ko Beterbiev

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            #25
            Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

            He’s already said that more movement is what is needed for him to get the win
            It’s all gibberish talk about him wanting to Ko Beterbiev
            That is not his game. He follows his game plans throughout the fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post

              That is not his game. He follows his game plans throughout the fight.
              Exactly my thinking
              He is gonna run more often but Artur won’t start slow
              this time
              I’m predicting a Ko in this second instalment

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                #27
                If Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.

                In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.

                I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.

                I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.

                But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.

                Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.

                There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.

                To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.

                Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc.






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                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-10-2024, 11:22 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                  If Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.

                  In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.

                  I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.

                  I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.

                  But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.

                  Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.

                  There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.

                  To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.

                  Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc.






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                  - - Bivol not likely to beat a healthy Beter, however Beter will be 40 years of age, so Bivol is certainly catching Beter at the ripe time for an upset.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dannnnn View Post
                    It's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.



                    ​You're aware there are more ways to hurt someone than just standing and trading, right?
                    Bivol couldn’t put a dent in Lyndon Arthur, yet you think he can hurt Beterbiev moving backwards 95% of the time? GTFOH.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dannnnn View Post
                      It's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      You said all this sh** before the first fight and you were wrong.

                      Bivol will try and nick a decision on the backfoot, he isn’t capable of standing and trading with Artur.
                      ​​You're aware there are more ways to hurt someone than just standing and trading, right?
                      bingo this is where rjj94 is off. Fighters have been ko'd in the past by someone backing up. They came forward and collided into a timed shot.

                      When Bivol hurt Artur he did it using his explosive handspeed edge to setup the left hook. Not by brawling which wasn't ever Bivol's style

                      Originally posted by dannnnn View Post

                      I'm sure he felt Artur's power, but there's a difference between being in pain and being stunned by a shot. I only spotted the latter from Beterbiev.

                      To be clear, I'm not suggesting Beterbiev was out on his feet or anything, just that it is not so far-fetched an idea that Bivol could win by stoppage since he clearly carries the power and accuracy to ring Artur's bell.
                      legs tell on a fighter when he's buzzed from a shot

                      ​Artur has been down twice in his career. And Artur legs have told on him multiple times: Gvozdyk & Bivol

                      Bivol took nice hard counters but his legs were fine and he was able to bike until the end

                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post

                      I want to see Bivol go into a second gear, more than likely he will get hurt but I want him to dare to be great.
                      Bivol second gear meaning throw more while backing up instead of excess lateral movement, which costed him points

                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                      In this sport any given day , a knockout is possible
                      What I’m saying is it’s highly debatable that he gets a knockout against Artur
                      And Bivol finished that fight like a wounded animal
                      This time I can see Beterbiev starting way faster and showing much less respect to Bivol eventually getting the big knockout
                      Exactly my thinking
                      He is gonna run more often but Artur won’t start slow
                      this time
                      I’m predicting a Ko in this second instalment
                      Artur starting fast and coming forward aggressively this time is why I see Bivol walking Artur into shots and hurting him more this time.

                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                      If Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.

                      In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.

                      I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.

                      I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.

                      But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.

                      Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.

                      There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.

                      To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.

                      Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc..
                      Fight 2 Artur will have increased wear & tear. Bivol struck Artur with the most high impact clean punches he has ever taken in a fight.

                      Who's better at mid range in unsettled. I think Artur might actually be better at mid range than Bivol.

                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      Bivol couldn’t put a dent in Lyndon Arthur, yet you think he can hurt Beterbiev moving backwards 95% of the time? GTFOH.
                      Aggressively coming forward, which I'm predicting Artur does, opens one up for timed COLLISIONS.

                      Being walked into punches hurt.

                      Manny [better chin than Artur] knows. Hatton knows. Tall Paul knows.

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