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BIVOL DECLARES 'I HAVE THE POWER to KO Artur Beterbiev' in rematch
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Bivol's defense and counters had Beterbiev not coming forward as hard, if anything it was a technical fight. Once he timed Bivol better and started to look like he didn't have enough energy he started the pressure. This is still a 50/50 fight because both guys can improve on their last performance and know more or less what to expect.BustedKnuckles likes this.
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Originally posted by dannnnn View Post
I'm sure he felt Artur's power, but there's a difference between being in pain and being stunned by a shot. I only spotted the latter from Beterbiev.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting Beterbiev was out on his feet or anything, just that it is not so far-fetched an idea that Bivol could win by stoppage since he clearly carries the power and accuracy to ring Artur's bell.
What I’m saying is it’s highly debatable that he gets a knockout against Artur
And Bivol finished that fight like a wounded animal
This time I can see Beterbiev starting way faster and showing much less respect to Bivol eventually getting the big knockout
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Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
I want to see Bivol go into a second gear, more than likely he will get hurt but I want him to dare to be great.
It’s all gibberish talk about him wanting to Ko Beterbiev
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If Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.
In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.
I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.
I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.
But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.
Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.
There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.
To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.
Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc.
.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-10-2024, 11:22 AM.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostIf Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.
In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.
I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.
I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.
But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.
Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.
There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.
To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.
Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc.
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Originally posted by dannnnn View PostIt's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.
You're aware there are more ways to hurt someone than just standing and trading, right?
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Originally posted by dannnnn View PostIt's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.
Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
You said all this sh** before the first fight and you were wrong.
Bivol will try and nick a decision on the backfoot, he isn’t capable of standing and trading with Artur.
When Bivol hurt Artur he did it using his explosive handspeed edge to setup the left hook. Not by brawling which wasn't ever Bivol's style
Originally posted by dannnnn View Post
I'm sure he felt Artur's power, but there's a difference between being in pain and being stunned by a shot. I only spotted the latter from Beterbiev.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting Beterbiev was out on his feet or anything, just that it is not so far-fetched an idea that Bivol could win by stoppage since he clearly carries the power and accuracy to ring Artur's bell.
Artur has been down twice in his career. And Artur legs have told on him multiple times: Gvozdyk & Bivol
Bivol took nice hard counters but his legs were fine and he was able to bike until the end
Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
I want to see Bivol go into a second gear, more than likely he will get hurt but I want him to dare to be great.
Originally posted by MulaKO View PostOriginally posted by MulaKO View Post
In this sport any given day , a knockout is possible
What I’m saying is it’s highly debatable that he gets a knockout against Artur
And Bivol finished that fight like a wounded animal
This time I can see Beterbiev starting way faster and showing much less respect to Bivol eventually getting the big knockout
He is gonna run more often but Artur won’t start slow
this time
I’m predicting a Ko in this second instalment
Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostIf Dmitry Bivol is coming into this rematch, with the attitude 'He is going to knock out Beterbiev, then all he will be doing is making the fight stylistically easier for Artur Beterbiev'.
In my opinion? Artur Beterbiev was most likely not at his absolute best for their first fight. It was common knowledge, that Beterbiev's first fight preparations were disrupted due to injuries that he had sustained. This was why the original fight date, had to be rescheduled by approximately 10 months.
I have stated recently, that I believe it is a ominous sign for Bivol 'That the rematch fight, has been scheduled for early next year in February. This would indicate that Artur Beterbiev has been able to build momentum from his last performance, and training camp. Which will potentially only increase his game markedly for the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II'.
I just sense that Dmitry Bivol had his opportunity 'If he was going to beat, knock out or force a stoppage vs Artur Beterbiev I. Then the factors were more in place, on April 12th 2024 for that eventually to happen'.
But regardless of those factors, Artur Beterbiev still found a way to win the fight in a stylistic manner which many people did not anticipate before the fight. Beterbiev competed with Bivol at his own game, and beat him. It was a straight forward, basic fundamental skill for skill boxing fight for Artur Beterbiev. He won the fight with his consistent pace, limited technical mistakes, and more damaging offensive attacks. But he did appear to be fighting within himself, in terms of intensity during the fight. And may theory has been? That this was influenced by Beterbiev not being at his absolute best, his overall game and conditioning most likely could of been operating at a even higher level.
Note: Dimtry Bivol in my opinion needs to approach this rematch, in a similar way Sugar Ray Leonard prepared for his second fight with Roberto Duran II 'If Bivol believes he is the overall superior boxer with his mid to long range game. Then he needs to come into the fight, with the ambition? That he is going to score points, and accumulate rounds. Systematically he is going to hit the target in a higher frequency than Artur Beterbiev'.
There is a possibility that Dmitry Bivol thinks he has detected something during the first fight. Bivol skill for skill and from a share physiological perspective fought his best fight ever vs Artur Beterbiev I. But that same notion is not held for Artur Beterbiev, it was clear to me? That although technically he fought at great fight. Beterbiev did appear to be fighting within himself, and not unleashing all of his gears.
To conclude: All the signs are there at this stage of fight preparations, that Artur Beterbiev is coming into this fight with more optimal and superior fight preparation 'Due to the quick turnaround between the two fights, Beterbiev would of in my opinion built momentum from the first fight. This momentum will enable him to utilize all of his game, fight gears, brutality and not fight within himself like he was during their first encounter'.
Dmitry Bivol may need to improve his effort to win this rematch 'And one way to make improvements, would be to tactically fight in manner. Which creates a competitive environment where he excels more than Artur Beterbiev II. This recent attitude and talk from Bivol, is in my opinion not the correct tactics to use. Because those tactics will create a competitive environment, where Artur Beterbiev stylistically is excelling more in the fight' etc..
Who's better at mid range in unsettled. I think Artur might actually be better at mid range than Bivol.
Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
Bivol couldn’t put a dent in Lyndon Arthur, yet you think he can hurt Beterbiev moving backwards 95% of the time? GTFOH.
Being walked into punches hurt.
Manny [better chin than Artur] knows. Hatton knows. Tall Paul knows.
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