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BIVOL DECLARES 'I HAVE THE POWER to KO Artur Beterbiev' in rematch

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    #11
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
    Beterbiev got stunned a couple of times but he did wha the always does, he pauses for a bit and starts up again. It is possible because these two guys are world class fighters. Bivol doesn't go for the KO and follows his game plan, maybe next time he stuns him he will actually go after him.
    That would be a delightful scene costing Bivol to be looking up into the lights

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      #12
      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
      Bivol clearly alarmed Beterbiev more than once. I recall, round seven I believe, he backed him up hard, but... Bivol failed to press the gas.

      It's likely he can indeed force a stoppage, if he presses just right. But Artur is a tough, trickier old man than most, if not all.
      Bivol chin 8/10. Artur chin 7/10, but his recovery and survival is 9/10

      Bivol has 6/10 decent power. But his finishing ability is 5/10 average

      Bivol was too trigger happy with his follow up in round 7 and took a hard counter right that allowed Artur to get back into the round
      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

      He showed him respect because he felt his punches. If Bivol couldn't hurt him he would have no reason to respect him. He would have walked right through him like he has with many other opponents. Clearly that wasn't the case.

      A KO is always a possiblility.
      light heavies are big men. I think they all hit hard enough to ko someone

      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
      He doesn’t, he’ll be on his bike again.
      a good backfoot fighter will still hurt someone when blasting while backwards

      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
      Beterbiev got stunned a couple of times but he did wha the always does, he pauses for a bit and starts up again. It is possible because these two guys are world class fighters. Bivol doesn't go for the KO and follows his game plan, maybe next time he stuns him he will actually go after him.
      I’d have Bivol be aggressive while going backwards

      but measured behind the cover of the jab when coming forward. What he did in the Alvarez fight

      Artur’s best shots landed on Bivol happened when Bivol was recklessly forward

      ​fortunately Bivol has a great chin and Artur needs accumulation not a one punch ko striker

      Artur power 8.5/10
      Artur finishing ability 9/10
      Artur survival and recovery 9/10
      Artur chin 7/10

      Bivol power 6/10
      Bivol finishing ability 5/10
      Bivol survival 9/10
      Bivol recovery 7+/10
      Bivol chin 8/10
      Last edited by SouthpawRight; 12-09-2024, 06:50 PM.

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        #13
        Time for Bivol to impose his explosive handspeed advantage over Artur

        Blasting on the bike

        We’ll see a return to Soviet Step Linear Bivol and reduction in Linear Bivol

        explode from the long guard with slips dips fades and rolls. Less high guard

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          #14
          beter showed him a lot of respect last time and was cautious.

          so much for the age difference though, besides beter being slower.. his reflexes are still good, he doesnt fight "old" and stamina wise he actually has bivol beat which is impressive as bivol is known for his stamina. bivol was really tired last fight in the late rounds.


          i hope bivol goes for the KO because that would open himself for a counter. I could even see beter getting dropped and getting back up and KOing bivol if bivol actually goes for the finish.... but bivol is the same guy who let an overwhelmed former jr middleweight canelo off the hook so for now I can only believe bivol is all talk. I think bivol could have stopped canelo if he really went for it but its not his style.


          If bivol opens up more his team has to account for its effects down the stretch. beterbiev is an accumulation guy. bivol was already dead tiredlate rounds last time and he was very cautious. If that KO doesnt happen and hes more open what does rounds 9-12 look like for him next fight? beter is used to exchanges, its what he wants actually.
          Last edited by elfag; 12-09-2024, 08:10 PM.
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            #15
            Originally posted by elfag View Post
            beter showed him a lot of respect last time and was cautious.

            so much for the age difference though, besides beter being slower.. his reflexes are still good, he doesnt fight "old" and stamina wise he actually has bivol beat which is impressive as bivol is known for his stamina. bivol was really tired last fight in the late rounds.


            i hope bivol goes for the KO because that would open himself for a counter. I could even see beter getting dropped and getting back up and KOing bivol if bivol actually goes for the finish.... but bivol is the same guy who let an overwhelmed former jr middleweight canelo off the hook so for now I can only believe bivol is all talk. I think bivol could have stopped canelo if he really went for it but its not his style.


            If bivol opens up more his team has to account for its effects down the stretch. beterbiev is an accumulation guy. bivol was already dead tiredlate rounds last time and he was very cautious. If that KO doesnt happen and hes more open what does rounds 9-12 look like for him next fight? beter is used to exchanges, its what he wants actually.

            War King Artur

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              #16
              Originally posted by elfag View Post
              beter showed him a lot of respect last time and was cautious.

              so much for the age difference though, besides beter being slower.. his reflexes are still good, he doesnt fight "old" and stamina wise he actually has bivol beat which is impressive as bivol is known for his stamina. bivol was really tired last fight in the late rounds.


              i hope bivol goes for the KO because that would open himself for a counter. I could even see beter getting dropped and getting back up and KOing bivol if bivol actually goes for the finish.... but bivol is the same guy who let an overwhelmed former jr middleweight canelo off the hook so for now I can only believe bivol is all talk. I think bivol could have stopped canelo if he really went for it but its not his style.


              If bivol opens up more his team has to account for its effects down the stretch. beterbiev is an accumulation guy. bivol was already dead tiredlate rounds last time and he was very cautious. If that KO doesnt happen and hes more open what does rounds 9-12 look like for him next fight? beter is used to exchanges, its what he wants actually.
              1) Artur will be going for the ko and opening himself up in the process. He finished fight 1 the stronger of the two, and it was so close he was surprised that he got the decision. In rematch Artur will be fighting for the ko

              2) If Artur gets ko’d by Bivol, it’ll be because Artur was coming forward and got caught with a death blow

              Bivol already PRESSED for the ko in round 7. It didn’t work

              Neither of them would stop Alvarez.

              Alvarez has a 9/10 granite chin, 8/10 great defense, and only one weight class lighter

              3) a fighter get tense demoralized and tired when he’s struggling to land and the one getting his ass kicked

              high probability if Bivol gets Soviet Stepping, Long Guarding, and moving his head

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                #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                Bivol chin 8/10. Artur chin 7/10, but his recovery and survival is 9/10

                Bivol has 6/10 decent power. But his finishing ability is 5/10 average

                Bivol was too trigger happy with his follow up in round 7 and took a hard counter right that allowed Artur to get back into the round
                light heavies are big men. I think they all hit hard enough to ko someone

                a good backfoot fighter will still hurt someone when blasting while backwards

                I’d have Bivol be aggressive while going backwards

                but measured behind the cover of the jab when coming forward. What he did in the Alvarez fight

                Artur’s best shots landed on Bivol happened when Bivol was recklessly forward

                ​fortunately Bivol has a great chin and Artur needs accumulation not a one punch ko striker

                Artur power 8.5/10
                Artur finishing ability 9/10
                Artur survival and recovery 9/10
                Artur chin 7/10

                Bivol power 6/10
                Bivol finishing ability 5/10
                Bivol survival 9/10
                Bivol recovery 7+/10
                Bivol chin 8/10
                You said all this sh** before the first fight and you were wrong.

                Bivol will try and nick a decision on the backfoot, he isn’t capable of standing and trading with Artur.

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                  #18
                  It's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.

                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                  Bivol will try and nick a decision on the backfoot, he isn’t capable of standing and trading with Artur.
                  ​You're aware there are more ways to hurt someone than just standing and trading, right?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dannnnn View Post
                    It's not the likeliest outcome but it's certainly not out of the question either. He buzzed Beterbiev several times during the first fight and if you can hurt someone, you can stop them. Artur has iron hands, not an iron chin. It's important not to conflate the two. Bivol also hits harder than he is given credit for. Despite clearly being the puncher out of the two, Beterbiev was the only one who ever appeared visibly affected by a shot at any point during the fight.



                    ​You're aware there are more ways to hurt someone than just standing and trading, right?
                    So Bivol was not hurt during this fight ???
                    He ran like he was hurt that’s for sure

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                      So Bivol was not hurt during this fight ???
                      He ran like he was hurt that’s for sure
                      I'm sure he felt Artur's power, but there's a difference between being in pain and being stunned by a shot. I only spotted the latter from Beterbiev.

                      To be clear, I'm not suggesting Beterbiev was out on his feet or anything, just that it is not so far-fetched an idea that Bivol could win by stoppage since he clearly carries the power and accuracy to ring Artur's bell.
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