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    #41
    Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post

    I suppose so, by the way think you misread Mr. Boxing fan's comment, he meant Robeisy can't withstand the punching power of Naoya Inoue, not his current opponent who he has a definitive shot of beating like he did in the first bout.

    I lean towards Espinoza, but it is 50/50 fight where I could be wrong about the outcome.
    It was a war of attrition and espinoza won not by much, he even went down hard, everyone knows 10 seconds more in that round and the fight would have been over, didn't happened that way so we got treated to a heck of a fight. And yes, you're right I misread his comment, my apologies to Mr.Boxing fan.

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      #42
      Originally posted by garfios View Post
      It was a war of attrition and espinoza won not by much, he even went down hard, everyone knows 10 seconds more in that round and the fight would have been over, didn't happened that way so we got treated to a heck of a fight. And yes, you're right I misread his comment, my apologies to Mr.Boxing fan.
      Something to note, this was Espinoza's first elite fight and he had suffered a foot injury in the second round on his fight against Robeisy Ramirez prior the knockdown of the fifth round.

      Think he has a better shot of employing a better gameplan now that he has experienced success against Ramirez in the first bout, pressing the action but being more alert with his distance management. He also said he will refrain himself of switching stances, as it didn't have much success against Robeisy, making him have more openings against the natural southpaw.​

      Also have to remember that Espinoza caught Ramirez with flash knockdown when he was in a unstable position when Robeisy was trying to finish him in the next round, the ref counted it as a slip but both knew Robeisy had been buzzed by the shot, difficult to say RR would have been able to get a finish against a 6'1 granite chinned opponent trying to survive if there was 10 more seconds. Ramirez also rocked him in the 8th round, but Espinoza still pressed the action.

      Have to rewatch the fight which was released today.
      Last edited by J.C. Superstar; 12-05-2024, 11:25 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

        Robeisy is a brilliant fighter, no question. My gut feeling is that Espinoza might be a little hungrier, hence my picking him in the rematch. But it's a 50/50 fight, for sure.

        By the way, I believe that the lone fighter I have really been shìtting on throughout my life of boxing student is Oscar De La Hoya. For the rest, I've always remained a relatively neutral watcher, though I did have some favorites...
        ——
        About Oscar, after he became a promoter is when I realized what an anus he is. I can’t stand him anymore but as a fighter, I can’t shǐt on him or his resume.
        I just wish Floyd gave him the rematch he was begging for but at 147 so Floyd could have retired his ass.
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          #44
          Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post

          Something to note, this was Espinoza's first elite fight and he had suffered a foot injury in the second round on his fight against Robeisy Ramirez prior the knockdown of the fifth round.

          Think he has a better shot of employing a better gameplan now that he has experienced success against Ramirez in the first bout, pressing the action but being more alert with his distance management. He also said he will refrain himself of switching stances, as it didn't have much success against Robeisy, making him have more openings against the natural southpaw.​

          Also have to remember that Espinoza caught Ramirez with flash knockdown when he was in a unstable position when Robeisy was trying to finish him in the next round, the ref counted it as a slip but both knew Robeisy had been buzzed by the shot, difficult to say RR would have been able to get a finish against a 6'1 granite chinned opponent trying to survive if there was 10 more seconds. Ramirez also rocked him in the 8th round, but Espinoza still pressed the action.

          Have to rewatch the fight which was released today.
          He went down hard, and went he got up went down face first, lucky he was close to the ropes and could hold onto them, in the middle of the ring he would had fall flat on his face. Again a great fight and we were lucky those if's didn't happen.
          Last edited by garfios; 12-06-2024, 11:17 AM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post

            Something to note, this was Espinoza's first elite fight and he had suffered a foot injury in the second round on his fight against Robeisy Ramirez prior the knockdown of the fifth round.

            Think he has a better shot of employing a better gameplan now that he has experienced success against Ramirez in the first bout, pressing the action but being more alert with his distance management. He also said he will refrain himself of switching stances, as it didn't have much success against Robeisy, making him have more openings against the natural southpaw.​

            Also have to remember that Espinoza caught Ramirez with flash knockdown when he was in a unstable position when Robeisy was trying to finish him in the next round, the ref counted it as a slip but both knew Robeisy had been buzzed by the shot, difficult to say RR would have been able to get a finish against a 6'1 granite chinned opponent trying to survive if there was 10 more seconds. Ramirez also rocked him in the 8th round, but Espinoza still pressed the action.

            Have to rewatch the fight which was released today.
            There are points and observations for both men, no doubt. Going in, I don’t think too many people would’ve picked Espinoza — as you said, Robeisy was by far his biggest fight. I’m picking Ramirez by KO, but this fight is impossible to confidently predict. These sorts of match-ups are becoming increasingly rare. I’m just happy to get a dose of good boxing.
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              #46
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

              There are points and observations for both men, no doubt. Going in, I don’t think too many people would’ve picked Espinoza — as you said, Robeisy was by far his biggest fight. I’m picking Ramirez by KO, but this fight is impossible to confidently predict. These sorts of match-ups are becoming increasingly rare. I’m just happy to get a dose of good boxing.
              Off topic, Lara passed by my place I work, the guy is a gentleman and he keeps himself I'm shape, seems like he can jump in the ring right now without missing a beat. His wife is a nice person too.
              Last edited by garfios; 12-07-2024, 07:42 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by garfios View Post

                Off topic, Lara passed by to where I work, the guy is a gentleman and he keeps himself I'm shape, seems like he can jump in the ring right now without missing a beat. His wife is a nice person too.
                Good to hear. Lara’s one of those guys who’s never out of shape. Reminds me of Hagler in that respect. One of the reasons why he’s been able to stay in the game this long. I hope he retires with all his marbles and all his money. From what I’ve seen, he appears to be headed in the right direction.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

                  Good to hear. Lara’s one of those guys who’s never out of shape. Reminds me of Hagler in that respect. One of the reasons why he’s been able to stay in the game this long. I hope he retires with all his marbles and all his money. From what I’ve seen, he appears to be headed in the right direction.
                  Yes he is, very quite and humble.
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

                    Good point about willpower. I got the same impression. That kind of grit can take you well beyond the limits of your talents. Espinoza’s determination, height and work rate are a tall order (no pun intended). Ramirez has to be supremely conditioned for the sequel, and be mentally ready for a prolonged war. If he does both, I believe his superior talent and power will give him the edge.
                    Incredible how, after all our opinions and exchanges these days, it all ended with a "No Mas". I really didn't expect Ramirez to quit like that. He was doing good until then, although I feel that Espinoza's pressure would have taken a toll on his resistance in the final third of the fight.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

                      Incredible how, after all our opinions and exchanges these days, it all ended with a "No Mas". I really didn't expect Ramirez to quit like that. He was doing good until then, although I feel that Espinoza's pressure would have taken a toll on his resistance in the final third of the fight.
                      Sports are like that, aren’t they? Ultimately they’re very unpredictable. Everything seemed fine until the hand wave. I’m certain something was wrong with Ramirez’s eye, but it’s still a quit job. Boxing a combat sport, a warrior’s sport. Injuries happen. The greats fight through them. Yes, they’re risking serious injury and even death; but that’s the way it is and how it’s been forever. I’d hate to see anyone suffer a permanent injury in a fight, but only those that hazard it get the laurels. Congratulations to Espinoza. I wish him well in his career.
                      Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 12-08-2024, 09:57 AM.
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