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    #31
    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

    The man offers millions for competitive fights and fighters accept it or they don't. How is that a dictatorship?
    Nothing wrong with the fact Turki is indeed putting up great fights buddy ,the problem is with his spoiled rich guy antics, I mean he said Tim doesn't understand, Lol, seriously? You're telling a pro fighter and former world champ ' you will no longer working with him cause 'He doesn't undertand' cmon now.

    Turki talks like hes putting money out his own damn pocket and only he has the last word when it comes to matchups.

    Thats the problem.
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      #32
      Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

      No argument about promoters not always putting the best interests of the sport (meaning: making the best fights possible to determine the best fighters in each weight class at every opportunity), regardless of who they may be. That's always been a part of boxing.
      What's different about Turkey is the agenda of the House of Saud monarchy of Arabia, whom Turkey represents. They are meddling in boxing for political purposes and not to make money or better the sport itself. Some call it sportswashing.
      It's not illegal but one could make a good argument that it is sinister.
      There has always been sinister elements in boxing. How many careers did Don King ruin? The mob ran boxing for decades. It's the reality of the sport. I'm not celebrating it. It is the way it is. I guess there are enough PBC fighters at 154 that Tim feels comfortable that he can make a career without involving Turki. I like Tim. I hope he makes it work.
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        #33
        Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post
        I'll just add this thought about Tim ZOO -

        More often than not, the sons of elite fighters who turn pro either disappoint or can't reach the levels of success their fathers did.
        Chavez Jr, Witherspoon, Mosley, Benn, Eubanks, Marvis Frazier, Hector Camacho, Jr....and it is what it is. Kudos to them for trying to fill big shoes.

        Tim Zoo might separate himself from that pack and fight his way to success that matches or even exceeds that of his father. I hope so.
        The more I see and hear from this guy, the more I like him as a fighter and competitor.
        I like Tim, I believe he may be one of the best but time will tell. Unfortunately Tim's separation will come from marketability, simalar to Gervonta Davis and not from fighting best because the PBC simply won't allow Tim to fight the best because they are not signed with the PBC.

        Sure, some PBC fighters may eventually find opportunities outside of the PBC and the faithful like to bring that up but that's more often because they don't have the branding and can't get fight dates on the network PBC is aliened with or they're burnt out or on their way out.

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          #34
          Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

          I like Tim, I believe he may be one of the best but time will tell. Unfortunately Tim's separation will come from marketability, simalar to Gervonta Davis and not from fighting best because the PBC simply won't allow Tim to fight the best because they are not signed with the PBC.

          Sure, some PBC fighters may eventually find opportunities outside of the PBC and the faithful like to bring that up but that's more often because they don't have the branding and can't get fight dates on the network PBC is aliened with or they're burnt out or on their way out.
          Honestly, the soap opera of which fighters are signed to which promotions is of no interest to me and I really don't follow or keep up with that drama. I'm aware (sort of) what's going on by osmosis and just being a fan of boxing, but if I could turn that aspect completely off I would.
          We just have to trust that if Tim wants to reach for greatness, and he finds that his quest is being sidelined by poor promotion, he will explore his options and make necessary changes.
          That's about all I have to say about that kind of stuff.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

            No argument about promoters not always putting the best interests of the sport (meaning: making the best fights possible to determine the best fighters in each weight class at every opportunity), regardless of who they may be. That's always been a part of boxing.
            What's different about Turkey is the agenda of the House of Saud monarchy of Arabia, whom Turkey represents. They are meddling in boxing for political purposes and not to make money or better the sport itself. Some call it sportswashing.
            It's not illegal but one could make a good argument that it is sinister.
            If sinister means staging Fury/Usky , Bivol/ Beterbiev, Joshua/Ruiz II,Crawford/Madrimov, Vigil/Bohachuk and possibly Bohachuk/Madrimov and he is also trying to make PPV accessible enough to curb illegal pirating....I can live with it.

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              #36
              Turki is a bully. Before Riyadh Season Turki was cleaning camel poop for the Royal family racing camels.

              Money can’t buy you everything Turki. Stop being a spoiled, entitled brat and respect fighters who don’t agree with you. Canelo and Tszyu won’t be the first or last fighters who put you in your place. Grow up and respect others when you don’t get your way.

              Turki pay attention and spend money on these fights:

              Canelo v Benevidez
              Benevidez v Beterbiev
              Beterbiev v Bivol II
              Crawford v Boots or Tszyu
              Bakole v Zhang
              Tank v Teo. Zepeda, or Andy Cruz
              Shakur v Teo, Zepeda, or A. Cruz
              Inoue v Junto or Bam against either
              Agit v Wardley
              Janibek v Sheeraz
              Buatsi v Izmailov

              Turki, stop wasting money on HW fighters who are shot or show no passion, drive, or determination like:

              Joshua, Ruiz, Wilder, J. Miller, or J. Anderson and please if you have a woman’s fight no more Skye just because she’s your lap dog Eddie Hearn’s mistress who has no desire to fight and is embarrassing running all night with no real boxing skills.
              Last edited by Phase III; 10-19-2024, 11:38 AM.
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                #37
                Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

                I'm not one of the people who think he's a boxing savior. He's clearly on an ego trip. Worse than any other boxing promoter? I guess that remains to be seen. How many fights has Arum stood in the way of?
                Recently?
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                  Recently?
                  My guess is we would have never seen the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight unless Turki personally drove a truck full of gold to Bob's mansion lol.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                    If sinister means staging Fury/Usky , Bivol/ Beterbiev, Joshua/Ruiz II,Crawford/Madrimov, Vigil/Bohachuk and possibly Bohachuk/Madrimov and he is also trying to make PPV accessible enough to curb illegal pirating....I can live with it.
                    Sinister refers to the regime and how they govern: morality police, repression of women and m*i*n*o*r*i*t*i*e*s, barbaric judicial codes, a history of exporting radical Islamic terrorism, and much more.
                    But let's all enjoy our boxing.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by observer View Post
                      Guess Tim wants to fight Canelo
                      Yes he wants to fight Canelo after he got fk up

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