Comments Thread For: Marvin Hagler, Terence Crawford, and the importance of knowing when to settle down

[LAchargers373]

LA... How can you bet on boxing? The judges s c r e w you! I stopped after the first Holly Lewis fight, where because of idiot Byrd the female judge I was robbed... I usually pick fights well and then some s t u p i d decision happens. I don't know how you can trust any bet with the judges being such idiots.

It’s true bro it happens sometimes. Thats part of the game. The lose who have been around for awhile know this and know complaining is useless you just do the best you can try avoid being screwed and when it happens try not to let it hurt to bad and don’t get in your feelings about it. I learned the hard way through experience lol

[steeve steel]

Ya I like making speculative bets. They pay off the best and if you chose em right they hit quite often. Ortiz is a winner you’ll see. Make some money off my tip it’s free advice kid

Well you have your answer right there. Turki Alalshikh wants Vergil Ortiz Jr. win, Ortiz-Terence Crawford next. Ukraine is important, but money talks. We all know who won the fight. But boxing politics is linked to money. Virgil lost, but it is what it is.

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I never look at judges as the final arbitrator for who won a fight. I am willing to say some fights, like this one, are not robberies, but truly a case can be made for either guy. My inclination is towards Hagler winning for what it is worth. I also think this fight should be compared to the Floyd Pacman fight...which would be the "Bizzaro" version.

In one fight you had two great fighters put it on the line... slug it out, take chances, and pretty much leave it in the ring with a great effort... In the other fight we had a sparring match, no fighter took any real risks, and people then took this material and decided someone "won" that fight. In either case, there was no domination, no sense that one guy was on another level.

Lol, I spent man years in Baltimore! Still have family there.

Valid points. I suspected that Hagler didn't get the nod because he didn't use his usual seek and destroy approach. In retrospect, I realize it's because Leonard didn't allow him to.

Now, Pacquiao vs Mayweather disgusted me. They charged a record $100 for that fight, yet they fought like two retirees in an exhibition.

I PM'd you about Bmorecareful

[factsarenice]

I stand by my statement because it's factual, not my opinion or promoter spin but verifiable fact.

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I stand by my statement because it's factual, not my opinion or promoter spin but verifiable fact.

I don't believe it's as simple as that. There's something to it that we don't know. Bob said that Bud isn't marketable and Bud said that Bob is a racist.

[billeau2]

It’s true bro it happens sometimes. Thats part of the game. The lose who have been around for awhile know this and know complaining is useless you just do the best you can try avoid being screwed and when it happens try not to let it hurt to bad and don’t get in your feelings about it. I learned the hard way through experience lol

Yeah your right... In just could not stand picking right and losing lol! I started to really get steamed!

[billeau2]

Valid points. I suspected that Hagler didn't get the nod because he didn't use his usual seek and destroy approach. In retrospect, I realize it's because Leonard didn't allow him to.

Now, Pacquiao vs Mayweather disgusted me. They charged a record $100 for that fight, yet they fought like two retirees in an exhibition.

I PM'd you about Bmorecareful

Yes just saw & responded.. small world. B'more has been shrinking, Washington and Baltimore used to be close to a mil population wise... Down to like 700k.

You used the term "shoeshine?" (forgot if this is exact)... Point being, what you described is true, Leonard stealing the rounds with a last minute flurry. Well, Leonard did lots of little things like that, and judges already have to assume so many things... Hagler was more like how Richard Pryor described George Foreman: "Which one the referee? Good cause I am going to kill the other Mfcker!"

the judges bought a lot of the "slick" and that is one reason why I think Hagler did more... His work was just not as catchy.

[LAchargers373]

Yeah your right... In just could not stand picking right and losing lol! I started to really get steamed!

I like betting total round completed and if the fight goes to the cards those are my favourite bets lol

[QballLobo]

When Crawford’s done he will be quickly forgotten. An accomplished fighter but a forgettable resume. Boxing heads will remember him but the average aports fan won’t.
Disrespectful to put his name with Hagler. Hagler/Hearns is an all time sports moment of that era. Crawford not like that.

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Yes just saw & responded.. small world. B'more has been shrinking, Washington and Baltimore used to be close to a mil population wise... Down to like 700k.

You used the term "shoeshine?" (forgot if this is exact)... Point being, what you described is true, Leonard stealing the rounds with a last minute flurry. Well, Leonard did lots of little things like that, and judges already have to assume so many things... Hagler was more like how Richard Pryor described George Foreman: "Which one the referee? Good cause I am going to kill the other Mfcker!"

the judges bought a lot of the "slick" and that is one reason why I think Hagler did more... His work was just not as catchy.

I don't blame people for getting out. Bmore has gotten especially bad with crime. My mom said there were some 15k car jackings there last year.

I was disappointed that Hagler lost that fight and retired afterward.