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    #51
    You all really hate giving opponents credit.

    He won vs Loma, but that's because Loma gave away 7 rounds doing fugh-all. I'm a big Loma fan, and I couldn't give that one to him. He was obviously injured though. Those of us who followed his career closely knew he had previous injuries to that shoulder, and it's the most complicated joint in the body. You injure it one time and it's generally never the same again.

    He didn't stop Claggett because he doesn't have his huge power at 140, and because Claggett fights on the inside, while Teo does his best work at mid and long range, where he's got space to develop power. He doesn't have the knack for short power. Very few fighters do. Tank does, which I think is the route to victory for him in that fight. Whoever dictates range would win that fight. But Tank doesn't like fighting live bodies, so it likely won't happen. But Claggett did what he needed to do to see the final bell, and he's got a good chin because he took hundreds of big shots.

    Teo is a good fighter. I don't think he's elite at this point, and the guys he struggled with were all movers, and he absolutely sucks at cutting the ring. But he does have good skills within his wheelhouse. If you went through the technical book of the sweet science, he ticks lots of boxes. He doesn't have to suck in order to explain his performances. The opponents have a lot to do with that.
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      #52
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Clagget is as tough as teak one tko loss 10 yrs ago, these sort of fights often make the Champ look ordinary its just the nature of a guy fighting the fight of his life and the other going through the motions. I agree his power is not as shocking as it was at 135 Teo is a hot and cold fighter..
      Fighting a custom made can often makes the champ look bad? Silly me for thinking they should make the champ look like superman. Teo looked bad vs Sandor and Ortiz, because their style was tricky for him now he fights a perfect style match up and still looks average? When do you people realize he ain't that good? He beat an under sized Loma, and a shot Taylor. He is not elite.
      Last edited by Oracle01; 06-30-2024, 07:33 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

        You all really hate giving opponents credit.

        He won vs Loma, but that's because Loma gave away 7 rounds doing fugh-all. I'm a big Loma fan, and I couldn't give that one to him. He was obviously injured though. Those of us who followed his career closely knew he had previous injuries to that shoulder, and it's the most complicated joint in the body. You injure it one time and it's generally never the same again.
        In my post I was trying to give "the opponent" credit. In Loma-Lopez, it was Lopez who was the opponent.

        But you're right, no one wants to give him credit for the Loma fight.

        Every time the fight gets mentioned a Loma fan comes along and pulls the "shoulder injury" out his ass.

        Loma didn't "give away" the first 7 rounds, he was over-whelmed by Lopez's strength and speed, and only when Lopez slowed in the second half was Loma willing to move forward. That's not giving away rounds, that's being dominated early.

        If Loma's shoulder was the problem, why then wasn't it a problem in the last five rounds when he finally committed to trying to win?

        Would seem it (injury) should have had a greater effect on his perforance later in the fight than earlier. A magical injury that seems to come and go.

        In regards to Lopez's recent performance I offer no opinion. Sounds as though the opponent did quite well.

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          #54
          I hope Haney, tank, Garcia, Spence & Crawford bought that performance last night. Maybe one will grow a pair and fight Teo.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

            In my post I was trying to give "the opponent" credit. In Loma-Lopez, it was Lopez who was the opponent.

            But you're right, no one wants to give him credit for the Loma fight.

            Every time the fight gets mentioned a Loma fan comes along and pulls the "shoulder injury" out his ass.

            Loma didn't "give away" the first 7 rounds, he was over-whelmed by Lopez's strength and speed, and only when Lopez slowed in the second half was Loma willing to move forward. That's not giving away rounds, that's being dominated early.

            If Loma's shoulder was the problem, why then wasn't it a problem in the last five rounds when he finally committed to trying to win?

            Would seem it (injury) should have had a greater effect on his perforance later in the fight than earlier. A magical injury that seems to come and go.

            In regards to Lopez's recent performance I offer no opinion. Sounds as though the opponent did quite well.
            Was pretty obvious. He barely used the arm he had surgery on the next day for seven rounds, and that was his jab. The single most important punch in boxing, and the one behind which all his offense is set up. And he wasn't throwing it. He threw it far more often in all his other fights, and the numbers go up when he actually decided he couldn't win without it. If you had any fight experience or medical knowledge, you'd know why he wasn't doing it. You can potentially end your career using an injured shoulder, and Loma was arrogant enough to think he could win with one arm. Boxers don't just stop throwing jabs because the opponent is doing something. Especially ones whose style is predicated upon having one of the most educated jabs in the sport. That's absolutely nonsense. And he was in surgery the next day, and you still think it's fake? He was having issues with it all camp. He should have pulled out of the fight, but it was the final title he needed, so I understand why he didn't.

            Claggett didn't exactly do well, he just managed to follow his gameplan and impose his style well enough to make it to the final bell. He lost basically every round.

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              #56
              The thing I noticed was how many punches landed for Clagget against Lopez. Like one poster said if he had any power, Lopez would have been rocked. Anyone like Garcia, Pitbull, Davis etc would clean up. Lopez scraping the bottom of the rankings.

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