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Hasn’t ended well for Wilder. I think overall he over achieved and had a decent career. Will be remembered as a formidable puncher. There’s so many questions for Wilder that we’ll never know. He crushed predominantly cans and when he stepped looked **** average.factsarenice DanMan_UK like this.
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Originally posted by vital1983 View Post
No chance, lanky string of piss, one record, a draw with fat Greggs Fury.greeneye99 likes this.
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Originally posted by Toffee View PostI was never too sure how people didn't see it.
The greatest boxing con job ever. I actually give huge credit to everyone involved for managing to pull it off. It was an audacious move - right down to the detail of building up credibility behind Ortiz specifically for Wilder to knock him out.
And while the fighter himself isn't exactly a sportsman, I do respect him giving us a bit of entertainment and earning a lot of money.
And the sport does need a US Heavyweight.
The very idea that Joshua was ducking him is laughable. Everyone, and I mean everyone, wanted Wilder. When Whyte was ranked highly he wanted him, Joshua always wanted him, Fury was even prepared to fight him as part of his comeback. And then as soon as he lost some of his standing all the fighters with less commercial draw wanted him too.
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Originally posted by pollywog View Post
No... the fight was there to be made but Hearn and Joshua wanted to age and shop wear Wilder even right up to the Parker fight.
Prime Wilder always had AJ's number he just wasn't prepared to sell himself short.
Joshua choosing his sparring partner and an MMA guy even recently says he's always quacked over facing Wilder.
Just like AJ is ducking Parker now and always has since jobbing him off his belt 6 years ago.
Easiest way to prove AJ has the heart of a champion and the balls of a warrior is to rematch Parker.
More than likely he'll pick over the carcass of Parkers victims and fight the tired old Chinaman.factsarenice likes this.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
Why he was 38 by time he lost to another HW, two years out of the ring practically and clearly affected by the damage from the Fury fights/ayahuasca.
Pretty much proven by his extreme guy shyness against the featherfisted Parker...
Wilder still has a historic reign despite people's hatred towards him - he is tied 5th Most consecutive title defenses, 5th Highest knockout-to-win percentage in title fights, tied 6th Most opponents title was successfully defended against during one reign,10th Longest reign in history and a multitude of other things...
So regardless it's an historically significant win for Fury what happens after Fury has took pieces of him is hardly relevant.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
I didn't say the opponents were any good did I!?
But the stats are what they are regardless of your opinion, he's a top 10th percentile in every department i've mentioned throughout heavyweight history.
Despite guys fighting just as weak opposition in their reigns...
Sadly for us, stats just like facts don't care how either of us feel, they just are what they are.
FYI I didn't say Wilder was HoF worthy, I just said his reign was historically significant which as i've pointed out is true.
Do you think in a 100 years when someone looks up "longest reigning" champion they'll care about the level of opposition truthfully!? most people don't even care now.Last edited by vital1983; 06-02-2024, 07:39 AM.
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Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
Tyson came back after losing to Douglas and won big fights and titles, wilder did not. I’m fact the second time Tyson lost, the sports world was surprised because he still had a solid reputation of being the baddest man on the planet. People actually thought he was going to critically injure holyfield. Also, Tyson always tried to win, even if it meant taking punches, he never laid back and waited to land a punch that never came, nor did he intentionally try to give away rounds. Wilder was a good heavyweight in a very weak era of the division. He would not have even been competitive in the champions for a day era in the early 80s with Weaver, Witherspoon, Smith, Dokes, or even Cooney
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Originally posted by vital1983 View Post
You got caught rapid, now trying to deflect. Give your head wobble, and again good for measure....Historic!!!
And why wouldn't I be able to mention his opponents from his first 30 fights i've literally mentioned opponents from his early fights in other threads like Dustin Nichols, Greene Jr, Liakhovich, Harrison of course the infamous Harold Sconiers and a multitude of other fighters i'm not a johnny come lately son...
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