Why don't boxing fans support 1 vs 2?

[dan-b]

I think this is a better question than the one -Kev- posted here.

Why does a significant subset of supposed boxing fans invest significant energy in constructing elaborate rationales for why 1 vs 2 shouldn't happen?

[Atypicalbrit]

Because the most important thing to fanboys is that their fighter keeps winning.

Risk isn't good

[dan-b]

Because the most important thing to fanboys is that their fighter keeps winning.

Risk isn't good

And that 'their' guy keeps getting easy paydays they can vicariously enjoy. "He balling on a yacht, bruh. Love looking at that on my smartphone."

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

And that 'their' guy keeps getting easy paydays they can vicariously enjoy. "He balling on a yacht, bruh. Love looking at that on my smartphone."

I think Mayweather era created a bunch of fans who love counting other people’s money.

I dunno whether I was just younger and didn’t notice it but I never remember anyone caring how much Roy, B-Hop, Oscar, Chavez etc was earning in the 90’s and early 00’s.

[STREET CLEANER]

When there was more boxing on TV you could see the #1 contender get to the mandatory position. Now it is a soup of sanctioning bodies, fighting on networks that you have to pay to see and a lot of careful matchmaking.

The politics of boxing just aids the cash cows since they are consistently change the rules to accommodate those champs. I know it is prize fighting but its rules should be enforced.

[_Rexy_]

Because the majority of people who claim to be "boxing fans" are just "Boxer Fans"

They don't want their guy to have 50/50 fights. They don't want to see them get into trouble, get hurt or possibly lose. Too much of their time has been spent blowing up their guys achievements online like it's their own achievements. They would much rather watch their guys dominate significantly lesser opponents.

And then guys who are fighting the top guys? bums.

[dan-b]

I think Mayweather era created a bunch of fans who love counting other people’s money.

I dunno whether I was just younger and didn’t notice it but I never remember anyone caring how much Roy, B-Hop, Oscar, Chavez etc was earning in the 90’s and early 00’s.

I genuinely have no idea what the splits were for Lewis - Tyson, B-Hop - Oscar or Jones - Tarver. No one cared, they were just fights people needed to see.

Everyone knows Mayweather - Pacquiao was 60/40. Mayweather never stopped bleating on about his PPV numbers.

[dan-b]

Probably because this jabroni industry keeps 1 and 2 a mystery?

Who is one and two? Who Ring says? Who TBRB says? Who the bodies says? Do y'all really pretend like the WBO = WBC? Do y'all really pretend like Ring or TBRB ratings, champions, and lack of mandatories matter?

Is Pac an 8 division or 7 division champion?

Who was actually the best boxer in 1722?

Who was actually the LW champion in 1885?

Do belt holders of titles that are legitimately major titles today get retroactive credit? Only if they named Wlad?

Is lineal even real?

Are their ANY real champions before the end of the colorline?

Are you really a world champion when the only nations that box are America and England?


Okay I went off the rails a bit but you get my point. 1 and 2, like everything else in boxing, is a debate with no real answer.

This is all fair but sometimes there is a clear top two in a division. Mayweather and Pacquiao at 147 in 2010 for example.

Beterbiev and Bivol are obviously the best at 175. Joshua Buatsi is a long way behind them.

David Benavidez is ranked beneath Canelo by the WBC, Ring and TBRB. It's as clear an endorsement as you're ever likely to get.

[mike1010011]

People are scared that their fighter might lose,and get called a bum by the rest of this toxic site. Instead of praising fighters for taking risks,they get **** on when they lose,and they're told to retire. That's why you have fighters protecting their 0 until it's time to cash out.(See the canelo sweepstakes,and how you have dudes willing to jump 2-3 weight classes just to lose and get paid).

[crimsonfalcon07]

Probably because this jabroni industry keeps 1 and 2 a mystery?

Who is one and two? Who Ring says? Who TBRB says? Who the bodies says? Do y'all really pretend like the WBO = WBC? Do y'all really pretend like Ring or TBRB ratings, champions, and lack of mandatories matter?

Great post.

To further illustrate the point, in recent times, Bam v Sunny wasn't for the Ring belt because some of the Ring writers didn't want to acknowledge Bam's accomplishments in the division above. I could understand that for someone moving up, but for someone who had just beaten two of the 4 kings at 115 to have those wins not count at all for ranking him at 112 is just absurd.