Mayweather: "Mosley, a Jealous Former Steroid User"

[Al Haymon]

I'm not exactly certain, but I believe that in every Mayweather fight up to and including Oscar, the commentators specifically said that the oponents were the draw, not Mayweather. Take the Judah, Gatti, Castillo, Corrales, fights the attractions were Mayweather's opponents. When he fought the "Brusselles" kind, the arenas were noticeably empty, at least to the commentators, who were there, an specifically spoke about it, mentioning his undoubted skills did not translate into packed seats.
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Edgar,

Please allow me to share some information with you:

Gatti: was a popular fighter in the Northeast. He would regularly sell out Boardwalk Hall. Gatti did NOT NOT NOT need Floyd to sell a gate. Repeat: NOT. However, gatti had never had a par perview fight before Floyd, and hadn't had one after. Arturo sold the gate. Floyd sold the PPV. And here is how he did it:



At the time, Floyd was giving a zillion interviews and hyping that fight like crazy. That was when FMJ adopted the "bad guy" persona. As evidenced by all the interviews and pressers above.

Mitchell: That was a WCB fight, and the gate was middling - around 6,000 seats sold in Portland. That was an exposure fight for Floyd.

Judah: Floyd sold that fight 100% and you would be a bit ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Judah COMPLETELY disappeared between the initial presser and the weigh-in. Zab didn't do any interviews or promo events. Floyd released a bunch of training videos to G. Leon on boxing talk dot com. That fight did around 400K buys and 15,000 seats at Thomas & Mack. In zab's previous fight - in his hometown of NYC, he couldn't sell 5,000 tickets. And zab had never had a PPV before.

Baldomir: an unknown opponent. Baldo sold nothing. Obviously. That fight sold 330K ppv buys, and 10,000 at the gate.

Delahoya: Oscar had fought Trinidad, Shane, Hopkins, vargas, mayorga, etc. The most he had done was 1.2 million. With floyd, he did 2.44 million. Interpret that data as you wish.

Hatton: Ricky had three previous fights in the states: Collazo, Urango and castillo. None of those fights were sold out, and none of them were PPV. With floyd, the fight sold out in a day, and sold 950K ppv buys in the US and another million plus in the UK. interpret that data as you wish.

Marquez: JuanMan had never had a successful PPV event. His highest sales were 400K vs Pacquiao. Against casamayor, JMM sold 100K buys. Jmm had to go to Houston to fight Baby Bull Diaz. Against Floyd, Marquez did 12,000 seats an over a million PPV buys. Interpret that data as you wish.


Here are the opponents who received their highest career paydays vs Floyd:

Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Delahoya, Hatton, Marquez.

Interpret that data as you wish.

[boxingfan76]

another thing mosley outconnected cotto when they fought it was a close fight mosley was taking over the latter half of the fight,cotto controlled the early stuff,but for now its not a fight boxing really needs mosley is avoided and cottos status is in question this pac fight is make or break for him,im rooting for cotto though.

[boxingfan76]

He didn't...really. I personally am of the opinion that although Mosley was not at his best, that he did enough to win. Alternately, I feel that if he was sure he was losing, he'd have been able to ratchet his performance up a notch, because he is the proverbial "warrior"..

Whoever really won, it was a very close fight anyway.

Regardless of the fact that Margarito beat Cotto badly, Cotto had plenty of opportunity to hit Margarito, and made no impression on him. He didn't have a plaster protected "chin", and was easy to hit. Mosley had much more effect on him.

Still, I can't help feeling that Cotto should beat Manny P.

the biggest thing in the way to me of a cotto win is cottos trainer, i dont feel that the guysis doing a good job,cotto is looking too sluggish and easy to hit, if hed at least have his old trainer or a great trainer his chances would be a lot better.still im rooting for cotto a ko win would be something to see for cotto .

[edgarg]

mayweathers saying he beat jmm more convinceing than pac when jmm wa a blown up light weight pac destroed his previous too fighters much more convinceing hatton wiped out in super style as mayweather took ten rounds and alot of help by crooked cortez and oscar pbf was very close bit more work by oscar with the jab and would of been a dela win while pac give him a brutal beat down and made him quit the sport mayweather fears mosley think its plain to see he dont need him mayweather hasnt gota name like sugar on his record oscar was good like but mosley beat him twice and is a bigger legend than him show some heart floyd fight all 3 cotto sugar pac and retire the real best the 80s had all the best face off they were real warriors hagler lenard hearns duran all done battle none had the 0 record but proved there metal same is needed hear from the fela calling himself greatest of all time

The "interesting" thing for me about Mosley's 2 fights with Oscar, is that although the first fight, was, I think a split decision, and the second was a unanimous decision, in my opinion, Mosley clearly and convincingly won the first fight, and it was the second fight that was closer.

All the same, in the second fight when Mosley was delivering very heavy blows to Oscar's body, even though Oscar was wearing his usual "chest" protector corset, I was almost expecting to see Mosley's fight come out through Oscar's back. He must have been seriously damaged, as he was hunching more and more over, to try to protect his body.

[Iceta]

Where is Floyd's courage? One reason why Pacquiao isn't going to look his way is the fact that Mayweather Sr. accused Pacquiao of taking steroids with no proof. That is one reason why I think Mosley will get Pacquiao instead if he beats Cotto and Mayweather doesn't man the hell up and fight the #1 guy in his division.

And Cotto got a total gift decision against Shane Mosley, and is an even worse fighter since then. He got outlanded in power punches and was the only one hurt in that fight. You Floyd fans are just trying to pump him up because you know he is the lesser threat than Mosley. And on top of that, Cotto has never wanted to fight Mayweather. You Floyd fans even say so yourself. If Mayweather pursues that fight, it's like being in the 8th grade picking on a kid from elementary school.

[jaestix1]

**** ssm....he's a good fighter but ya'll overrated the guy way too much....i just want to see the fight because want to hear all the excuses after the fight on why floyd beat he ass....."he's past he prime." "he'd would've ok'd pfg in his prime." lol

[GameBullDawg]

The MAIN COWARD !

[edgarg]

Edgar,

Please allow me to share some information with you:

Gatti: was a popular fighter in the Northeast. He would regularly sell out Boardwalk Hall. Gatti did NOT NOT NOT need Floyd to sell a gate. Repeat: NOT. However, gatti had never had a par perview fight before Floyd, and hadn't had one after. Arturo sold the gate. Floyd sold the PPV. And here is how he did it:



At the time, Floyd was giving a zillion interviews and hyping that fight like crazy. That was when FMJ adopted the "bad guy" persona. As evidenced by all the interviews and pressers above.

Mitchell: That was a WCB fight, and the gate was middling - around 6,000 seats sold in Portland. That was an exposure fight for Floyd.

Judah: Floyd sold that fight 100% and you would be a bit ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Judah COMPLETELY disappeared between the initial presser and the weigh-in. Zab didn't do any interviews or promo events. Floyd released a bunch of training videos to G. Leon on boxing talk dot com. That fight did around 400K buys and 15,000 seats at Thomas & Mack. In zab's previous fight - in his hometown of NYC, he couldn't sell 5,000 tickets. And zab had never had a PPV before.

Baldomir: an unknown opponent. Baldo sold nothing. Obviously. That fight sold 330K ppv buys, and 10,000 at the gate.

Delahoya: Oscar had fought Trinidad, Shane, Hopkins, vargas, mayorga, etc. The most he had done was 1.2 million. With floyd, he did 2.44 million. Interpret that data as you wish.

Hatton: Ricky had three previous fights in the states: Collazo, Urango and castillo. None of those fights were sold out, and none of them were PPV. With floyd, the fight sold out in a day, and sold 950K ppv buys in the US and another million plus in the UK. interpret that data as you wish.

Marquez: JuanMan had never had a successful PPV event. His highest sales were 400K vs Pacquiao. Against casamayor, JMM sold 100K buys. Jmm had to go to Houston to fight Baby Bull Diaz. Against Floyd, Marquez did 12,000 seats an over a million PPV buys. Interpret that data as you wish.


Here are the opponents who received their highest career paydays vs Floyd:

Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Delahoya, Hatton, Marquez.

Interpret that data as you wish.

Thank you for the info, which you clearly have to hand. However I remain with my opinion, which I got by watching the broadcasts and reading the reports.

Gatti was completely washed up long before Mayweather, but the big news about him was that, regardless, he always had a huge following. I don't think it's a valid premise that one hugely popular fighter can only bring in the "gate" and the other, who has always -as the commentators would say- "stunk out the house" would be the
PPV draw. I don't suppose that the over a million U.K. PPV buys were because they were Mayweather fans.

Baldomir was the lineal champ, and had beaten Judah in a huge upset.

You are comparing "apples" and "oranges" At least I believe so.

However, thank you for the info.

[GameBullDawg]

The main Chicken !! He has no title, but "THE CHEATER" !

[boxingfan76]

Where is Floyd's courage? One reason why Pacquiao isn't going to look his way is the fact that Mayweather Sr. accused Pacquiao of taking steroids with no proof. That is one reason why I think Mosley will get Pacquiao instead if he beats Cotto and Mayweather doesn't man the hell up and fight the #1 guy in his division.

And Cotto got a total gift decision against Shane Mosley, and is an even worse fighter since then. He got outlanded in power punches and was the only one hurt in that fight. You Floyd fans are just trying to pump him up because you know he is the lesser threat than Mosley. And on top of that, Cotto has never wanted to fight Mayweather. You Floyd fans even say so yourself. If Mayweather pursues that fight, it's like being in the 8th grade picking on a kid from elementary school.

co-sign now that fraud jr is back all the sudden the guy to beat is cotto,yeah nobody is buying that bs.the only fight that will at all redeem floyd is mosley or at least a welter in or near the top 5 since he proclaims himself to be better than sugar ray robinson ,which is a joke to say the least. if the guy wont fight a 38-year old dude whom happens to be without a doubt the best in his own weight class ,then i dont even know what hes doing back in the sport.