Comments Thread For: Tarver Backs Crawford as P4P Best: How Many P4P Champions Has Inoue Defeated?

[HisExcellency]

Crawford already addressed this - He "Beat The Man That Beat The Man".

That's TRUE but obviously Crawford is going to say that to save face whereas even Stevie Wonder and the 3 blind mice know that Pacquiao was robbed during that championship fight on foreign soil. In fact, according to the official CompuBox stats, Manny landed DOUBLE the number of total punches compared to Horn (182 vs. 92) in one of the worst boxing robberies in history.

Therefore, the bigger question is, would Crawford EVEN be Welterweight champion if he'd faced Pacquiao instead of Horn? Personally, I DON'T think so because post-Horn, 40yo PacMan easily beat the likes of Matthysse & Broner whilst dropping and handing previously undefeated, heavily avoided KO artist and career Welterweight Thurman his first loss.

[Lance98]

Lmao there you go again proving that you're a complete and utter IMBECILE of the highest order..."HoF is not the same p4p". Guess what? Being in Ring ****zine's top 10 p4p list DOESN'T guarantee a spot in the HoF so obviously beating a HoF fighter (twice) is a far greater achievement. Also, Crawford admitted AFTER beating Spence that Errol wouldn't make it into the HoF so what does that tell you? Let's not forget that he also waited until Spence was 33yo with years of hard partying and a life-changing car crash behind him before facing him. Also, Spence had been in a few wars with the likes of Brook, Garcia, Porter & Ugas so in reality Crawford beat an old, broken and severely depleted fighter instead of beating him in his prime.

It's also hilarious how you accuse Inoue of beating a 'washed up Donaire' but have the audacity to claim that 'Crawford has beaten many good names' whilst failing to mention that the biggest names on his resume had either been knocked out multiple times (Brook - Golovkin & Spence, Khan - Canelo, Garcia & Prescott) or through several wars (Porter - Spence, Brook, Thurman, Garcia & Ugas) before he cherry-picked them.

Therefore, all things considered, Inoue is the SUPERIOR fighter because he's a) beaten a future HoF TWICE b) won world titles in FOUR divisions vs. THREE for Crawford c) become undisputed champion in two weight classes in just ONE year vs. SIX years for Bud.

Damn, how can somebody be so dumb despite multiple different poster's telling you the same thing whilst laughing at your ******ity? I guess that's what happens when your mother conceived you through the back passage in the McDonald's toilets

You seem mentally disturbed and hurt that I posted the facts on inoue and seem to be having a meltdown doing paragraphs of damage control. Multiple posters told me nothing but the same old talking points that are already refuted. Get some new material and quit spamming the forums you mentally deranged, inoue smegma slurpers. Crawford is the consistent, superior pound for pound name who accomplished more, and has better skills.

Inoue gets no credit for his baby divisions climb beating complete bums and washed up old men who should have retired. Understand?

[hugh grant]

TC at the #1 spot... Inoue #2. I only say this because TC beat spence and spence was once looked as a very elite fighter on here (even tho i dont agree) but because spence was held so highly on here and the way TC just went in a ran thru spence. I will give him the #1 spot over Inoue. Inoue needs to move up if he wants to be #1 and known... yes. he's dominating all the guys he's fought but their names dont have the same ring as the guys in the higher weigh class.

You must hate bud to write something like this, I think you really dug a grave for bud. Any slim chance Bud had to be no1 is gone now after this logic circulating.
Might as well just give the pfp trophy now to Inoue

[IceTrayDaGang]

You must hate bud to write something like this, I think you really dug a grave for bud. Any slim chance Bud had to be no1 is gone now after this logic circulating.
Might as well just give the pfp trophy now to Inoue

I did have Inoue at #1... but after some thinking I changed it to TC to be fair.... like i said, Inoue has fought and destroy most of his opponents but they were never looked as an elite fighter like how fans on here were with spence.... spence was talked on here for years about how good and deadly he is, etc... then TC made easy work of him... yes, Inoue whooped on Fulton, but Fulton was never looked as the same like how spence was.

[HisExcellency]

You seem mentally disturbed and hurt that I posted the facts on inoue and seem to be having a meltdown doing paragraphs of damage control. Multiple posters told me nothing but the same old talking points that are already refuted. Get some new material and quit spamming the forums you mentally deranged, inoue smegma slurpers. Crawford is the consistent, superior pound for pound name who accomplished more, and has better skills.

Inoue gets no credit for his baby divisions climb beating complete bums and washed up old men who should have retired. Understand?

Lol NOPE...like I said before, Inoue is the SUPERIOR fighter because he's a) beaten a future HoF TWICE b) won world titles in FOUR divisions vs. THREE for Crawford c) become undisputed champion in two weight classes in just ONE year vs. SIX years for Bud. Those are the cold, hard, indisputable facts.

As for Crawford, he's cherry-picked his way to an undefeated record by facing big names only AFTER they'd already been knocked out multiple times (Khan & Brook), been through several wars (Porter) or life-changing circumstances (Spence). Even a highly experienced Doctor admitted that Spence had 'significant residual neurological damage' prior to his fight with Crawford (see link below).

Also, NONE of these fighter's was on the right side of 30 when he faced them as Spence, Khan & Brook were all 33 and on their way out whereas Porter was 34. Therefore, he hasn't beaten ANY decent fighter's in their prime (although I do rank him #1 on the p4p list of cherry-pickers)

[hugh grant]

I did have Inoue at #1... but after some thinking I changed it to TC to be fair.... like i said, Inoue has fought and destroy most of his opponents but they were never looked as an elite fighter like how fans on here were with spence.... spence was talked on here for years about how good and deadly he is, etc... then TC made easy work of him... yes, Inoue whooped on Fulton, but Fulton was never looked as the same like how spence was.

For Gosh sakes is spence that good? So when pac best barrera how come pac didn't become no1 pfp? Barrera was much better than Anyone floyd beat!
Bud took 5 years to fight spence. Fulton was Inoue s 4th weight class and best him in 1st fight.
I mean Lance98 is ruining buds chance of being no1, bud don't need your support.

[IceTrayDaGang]

For Gosh sakes is spence that good? So when pac best barrera how come pac didn't become no1 pfp? Barrera was much better than Anyone floyd beat!
Bud took 5 years to fight spence. Fulton was Inoue s 4th weight class and best him in 1st fight.
I mean Lance98 is ruining buds chance of being no1, bud don't need your support.

imo, he's average BUT I am talking about how others on here view spence... Let's keep it real. Spence was looked as a top fighter and when the fight with pac vs spence got signed, some fans were saying if manny beat spence then he will be better than floyd. so you see how fans on here view spence now? and then TC goes in and make easy work of spence so i have to give the #1 spot to TC... Inoue is a killer too but until he moves up and fight a fighter with a big name, he will never be look at as the p4p#1 from the rest of the boxing fans. I am just keeping it real... I know a fight between Inoue and Tank is not possible BUT this is the type of fight that will guarantee to put him as the p4p#1...

[famicommander]

That's TRUE but obviously Crawford is going to say that to save face whereas even Stevie Wonder and the 3 blind mice know that Pacquiao was robbed during that championship fight on foreign soil. In fact, according to the official CompuBox stats, Manny landed DOUBLE the number of total punches compared to Horn (182 vs. 92) in one of the worst boxing robberies in history.

Therefore, the bigger question is, would Crawford EVEN be Welterweight champion if he'd faced Pacquiao instead of Horn? Personally, I DON'T think so because post-Horn, 40yo PacMan easily beat the likes of Matthysse & Broner whilst dropping and handing previously undefeated, heavily avoided KO artist and career Welterweight Thurman his first loss.

No matter which way you look at it Crawford is the lineal champion.

Most people believe Pacquiao vacated the lineal title when he retired, so it was actually vacant when he lost to Horn. A new lineage began when Crawford beat Spence because they were universally ranked in the top two.

Some people believe Pacquiao's retirement didn't count and that he remained lineal champion. If that were the case, he officially lost to Horn who later lost to Crawford. But if you want to say he never really lost to Horn, he did in fact lose to Ugas. Ugas then lost to Spence, and Spence lost to Crawford.

Other people say that Pacquiao was never lineal in the first place because they didn't believe he and Bradley were the consensus top two after Floyd retired. And if that's the case, the lineage remained vacant until Crawford beat Spence.

So there are four separate ways to look at the welterweight lineage right now and they all say Crawford is the champion.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I don't buy Spence as P4P. Never have. Donaire was on the P4P list before losing to Rigo in 2013, and his resurgence after everyone wrote him off was history making. There were some other P4P talents in Inoue's range and they ducked him. Does anyone really think Inoue wouldn't beat Estrada or Chocolatito? Would have loved to see those fights, because they all 3 make for great fights, but Inoue would have won all of those by stoppage IMO.

[Lance98]

Lol NOPE...like I said before, Inoue is the SUPERIOR fighter because he's a) beaten a future HoF TWICE b) won world titles in FOUR divisions vs. THREE for Crawford c) become undisputed champion in two weight classes in just ONE year vs. SIX years for Bud. Those are the cold, hard, indisputable facts.

As for Crawford, he's cherry-picked his way to an undefeated record by facing big names only AFTER they'd already been knocked out multiple times (Khan & Brook), been through several wars (Porter) or life-changing circumstances (Spence). Even a highly experienced Doctor admitted that Spence had 'significant residual neurological damage' prior to his fight with Crawford (see link below).

Also, NONE of these fighter's was on the right side of 30 when he faced them as Spence, Khan & Brook were all 33 and on their way out whereas Porter was 34. Therefore, he hasn't beaten ANY decent fighter's in their prime (although I do rank him #1 on the p4p list of cherry-pickers)

Is that all you got? Crawford has been asking for the big fights with the top guys at welterweight, and thurman acted like he never existed, pacquiao didn't want any smoke (bob arum protected him on top of that), vergil ortiz was scared and lied that he wanted smoke, and spence downplayed the fight till recently, you dumb cretin. Crawford still fought good names and beat pound for pound spence. Inoue never did anything great and will never get any credit for beating weak opposition. Accept it and move on, quit masturbating to inoue's posters in your toilet and just throw in the towel. Inoue is a weak champ.