Comments Thread For: Hearn: Hopefully We Make The Joshua vs. Wilder Fight For March

[Tonyu]

We all know Hearn is avoiding Wilder like the plague. Hearn is waiting on the IBF to call Ussyk to defend against Hrgovic and because of the rematch clause against Fury the title becomes vacant, which then puts Joshua against Hrgovic for the vacant title. Either way Joshua loses to both Wilder and Hrgovic and sends him into retirement.

[MeiXiang]

Ffs already. Shut up. Just shut up Eddie. Don't care. Only mention both if you've got some actually news.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Lets all see how Wilder performs vs Parker.

Wilder was ****** out, stunned and continually decked by a fighter in Fury who has never been rated as a monster puncher.

Wilder vs Parker needs to prove that he is still a top level fighter.

Joshua really has not really suffered the same category of loses that Wilder has 'Joshua has never been legitimately knocked out, never really been completely dominated even during his worst loss vs Ruiz Junior I'.

Ruiz Junior I decked Joshua, and then Joshua fought his way back into that fight before being stopped on his feet with a smile on his face 'And then we have Joshua's two loses to Usyk, which were both competitive fights. Fights were Joshua proved himself as a extremely solid and capable boxer skill for skill'.

Joshua has also avenged a loss to Ruiz Junior 'Joshua overall in comparison to Fury and Wilder, has been more thoroughly tested in his entire boxing career. Joshua has got up off the deck to win a World title fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko, Joshua has avenged a loss, Joshua has fought the most variation of styles 'Joshua is quite honestly the most experienced active Heavyweight fighter in the sport at World and Elite level'

Maybe Derek Chisora is the only Heavyweight still active who is more experienced than Joshua at World level 'But what exactly are Chisora's experiences at World level? Joshua has won 95% of the time, Chisora has survived, fought gallantly, pushed the fighters or he has been beaten up and brutalized'.

We all know Joshua's level within this era of Heavyweights, Joshua is not a super all-time greater boxer but he is top level boxer within his era. 'As Joshua has been thoroughly tested. We have seen him blast top level fighters out, we seen him out box top level boxers. 90 to 95% of the opponents who Joshua faces struggled to win rounds against him consistently, overall within this era Joshua is a solid boxer extremely capable fighter'.

Note: I personally think the Wilder vs Joshua fight is overrated, and has been for sometime. I don't see much passion between the two fighters, and the match up has no real depth beyond just being a boxing match. Great fighters and rivalries need more to their plot, to infatuate and capture the imagination of the boxing World 'Great fights usually mean more to the fighters than just doing good business, there have always been immaterial aspects to the match ups. Wilder vs Joshua is very bland match up, both in terms of passion and even stylistically'.

I have no idea why people **** on about the fight, as if it is some sort of Ward vs Gatti rivalry in the waiting 'Those two fighters were obsessed with getting the win over each other and pushing themselves beyond the limit. For what? The boxing fans and worlds entertainment? No. I think it was for something beyond the comprehension of any casual spectator, and most boxing supporters'.

Frazier vs Ali, Lyle vs Foreman, Ward vs Gatti, Eubank Senior vs Benn 'Those fights are more than just business opportunities for the fighters.

The Wilder vs Fury trilogy has been the best match up of this heavyweight era in terms of passion 'It has not been the highest level of match ups in terms of the action skill for skill, but for sure it was the best match up and rivalry in terms of everything else'.

And the greatest single fight of this era in totality, was Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua 'Which is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years' That fight once again for both fighters was not just a business opportunity, it was beyond that etc.

[N/A]

I am sure this will never happen and the main reason is that coward AJ and his vile manager. Wilder was a cherry picker, but after the Fury trilogy it seems he isn't afraid of taking punishment at least.

It will be interesting to see what both sides will talk after their December fights, as the outcomes will predefine their future.

[boxing IQ]

Lets all see how Wilder performs vs Parker.

Wilder was ****** out, stunned and continually decked by a fighter in Fury who has never been rated as a monster puncher.

Wilder vs Parker needs to prove that he is still a top level fighter.

Joshua really has not really suffered the same category of loses that Wilder has 'Joshua has never been legitimately knocked out, never really been completely dominated even during his worst loss vs Ruiz Junior I'.

Ruiz Junior I decked Joshua, and then Joshua fought his way back into that fight before being stopped on his feet with a smile on his face 'And then we have Joshua's two loses to Usyk, which were both competitive fights. Fights were Joshua proved himself as a extremely solid and capable boxer skill for skill'.

Joshua has also avenged a loss to Ruiz Junior 'Joshua overall in comparison to Fury and Wilder, has been more thoroughly tested in his entire boxing career. Joshua has got up off the deck to win a World title fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko, Joshua has avenged a loss, Joshua has fought the most variation of styles 'Joshua is quite honestly the most experienced active Heavyweight fighter in the sport at World and Elite level'

Maybe Derek Chisora is the only Heavyweight still active who is more experienced than Joshua at World level 'But what exactly are Chisora's experiences at World level? Joshua has won 95% of the time, Chisora has survived, fought gallantly, pushed the fighters or he has been beaten up and brutalized'.

We all know Joshua's level within this era of Heavyweights, Joshua is not a super all-time greater boxer but he is top level boxer within his era. 'As Joshua has been thoroughly tested. We have seen him blast top level fighters out, we seen him out box top level boxers. 90 to 95% of the opponents who Joshua faces struggled to win rounds against him consistently, overall within this era Joshua is a solid boxer extremely capable fighter'.

Note: I personally think the Wilder vs Joshua fight is overrated, and has been for sometime. I don't see much passion between the two fighters, and the match up has no real depth beyond just being a boxing match. Great fighters and rivalries need more to their plot, to infatuate and capture the imagination of the boxing World 'Great fights usually mean more to the fighters than just doing good business, there have always been immaterial aspects to the match ups. Wilder vs Joshua is very bland match up, both in terms of passion and even stylistically'.

I have no idea why people **** on about the fight, as if it is some sort of Ward vs Gatti rivalry in the waiting 'Those two fighters were obsessed with getting the win over each other and pushing themselves beyond the limit. For what? The boxing fans and worlds entertainment? No. I think it was for something beyond the comprehension of any casual spectator, and most boxing supporters'.

Frazier vs Ali, Lyle vs Foreman, Ward vs Gatti, Eubank Senior vs Benn 'Those fights are more than just business opportunities for the fighters.

The Wilder vs Fury trilogy has been the best match up of this heavyweight era in terms of passion 'It has not been the highest level of match ups in terms of the action skill for skill, but for sure it was the best match up and rivalry in terms of everything else'.

And the greatest single fight of this era in totality, was Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua 'Which is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years' That fight once again for both fighters was not just a business opportunity, it was beyond that etc.

Fury-Wilder III was better than Klitschko-Joshua.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury-Wilder III was better than Klitschko-Joshua.

Skill for skill? It was not a better overall match up than Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua ;Those were two Olympic Champions clashing, two powerful punchers who fundamentally are better boxers than both Fury and Wilder'.

What I mean by this is? Fury is not as technical sound and fundamentally correct as Anthony Joshua skill for skill 'Which is most likely the reason why Fury has been decked 8-9 times during his career even though he has barely fought at World level outside of Kiltschko and Wilder'.

During Wilder vs Fury III both fighters were fatigued badly from round 2 to 3 on wards, and making unforced errors all over the place 'What lead to Fury first being decked, was that for no apparent reason early on in the fight. Fury just decided out of nowhere to square up to Wilder, as if he was opening the front door to his house than BAM. Wilder Decked Fury'.

The entire fight skill for skill consisted of unforced errors, bad positions, clumsy fighting by both fighters 'Wilder vs Fury III, was a great fight mainly because of the determination and passion both fighters had to win. But skill for skill, the action that was on display? This was not all-time great match up, it is not on the level of Rid**** Bowe vs Evander Holyfield, or Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali'.

There have been people within the sport that do not rate that match up very highly skill for skill.

Shane Mcguigan for example in terms of pure boxing, does not regard it as a great overall performance from Tyson Fury 'Those are top boxing coaches speaking mate, people that know the game on objective level when it comes to the action'.

Joshua vs Usyk I & II skill for skill in terms of pure boxing was a higher level match up than the entire Wilder vs Fury trilogy.

Both Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder especially in the third fight were just making too many technical mistakes 'It was a great fight in terms of passion, and action. But the actual quality of boxing was not super high mate'.

Note: I personally enjoyed the Wilder vs Fury trilogy more than Joshua vs Usyk I & II, but I don't regard it as a particular super high level match up.

I think that should be clear now, that both Wilder and Fury have potentially acted like a smoke screen for each other 'And their current true form'.

If Wilder vs Fury III, was the highest level match up of this era skill for skill ? Then why did Tyson Fury struggle vs Ngannou? The Ngannou vs Fury fight in my opinion unearthed Tyson Fury's true current form.

Overall all mate, I get it 'You enjoyed the Wilder vs Fury trilogy. I also enjoyed the trilogy, the rivalry was awesome'. What made the match up great was the passion, the resolve and determination.

But skill for skill, the match up was messy, clumsy, a technically all over the place match up 'Especially Wilder vs Fury III'.

If you want to sit here and try and make it out to be something it was not 'If you want to try and claim that Wilder vs Fury III, is the gold standard of Heavyweight boxing of this era skill for skill. Then you are going to have to believe a lot nonsense, you are gong to have to convince yourself that technically, clumsy all over the place boxing is great boxing'.

If you want to do that? Go for it 'I am not going to be doing that mate'.

Deep down you know what you are saying is nonsense, that is why you are not saying much.

But if you want to expand more on why you think Wilder vs Fury III is the greatest match up in it's entire totality of this era 'Then go ahead mate, expand more than just quoting me and trying to disagree'.

The stage is right here mate, I want to know why and how you can rate Wilder vs Fury III skill for skill so highly? Was Wilder's inside fighting on the level of Evander Holyfeild's? Was Fury's mid to long range boxing and defense great? Is squaring up on the inside as if he was opening the front door to his house, a elite level move? No.

You enjoyed the match up, you enjoyed the passion 'And the determination on display'.

But seriously mate, stop it with the nonsense 'Wilder vs Fury III, is not the Gold Standard match up of Heavyweight boxing in totality skill for skill' within this era etc.

[boxing IQ]

Skill for skill? It was not a better overall match up than Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua ;Those were two Olympic Champions clashing, two powerful punchers who fundamentally are better boxers than both Fury and Wilder'.

What I mean by this is? Fury is not as technical sound and fundamentally correct as Anthony Joshua skill for skill 'Which is most likely the reason why Fury has been decked 8-9 times during his career even though he has barely fought at World level outside of Kiltschko and Wilder'.

During Wilder vs Fury III both fighters were fatigued badly from round 2 to 3 on wards, and making unforced errors all over the place 'What lead to Fury first being decked, was that for no apparent reason early on in the fight. Fury just decided out of nowhere to square up to Wilder, as if he was opening the front door to his house than BAM. Wilder Decked Fury'.

The entire fight skill for skill consisted of unforced errors, bad positions, clumsy fighting by both fighters 'Wilder vs Fury III, was a great fight mainly because of the determination and passion both fighters had to win. But skill for skill, the action that was on display? This was not all-time great match up, it is not on the level of Rid**** Bowe vs Evander Holyfield, or Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali'.

There have been people within the sport that do not rate that match up very highly skill for skill.

Shane Mcguigan for example in terms of pure boxing, does not regard it as a great overall performance from Tyson Fury 'Those are top boxing coaches speaking mate, people that know the game on objective level when it comes to the action'.

Joshua vs Usyk I & II skill for skill in terms of pure boxing was a higher level match up than the entire Wilder vs Fury trilogy.

Both Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder especially in the third fight were just making too many technical mistakes 'It was a great fight in terms of passion, and action. But the actual quality of boxing was not super high mate'.

Note: I personally enjoyed the Wilder vs Fury trilogy more than Joshua vs Usyk I & II, but I don't regard it as a particular super high level match up.

I think that should be clear now, that both Wilder and Fury have potentially acted like a smoke screen for each other 'And their current true form'.

If Wilder vs Fury III, was the highest level match up of this era skill for skill ? Then why did Tyson Fury struggle vs Ngannou? The Ngannou vs Fury fight in my opinion unearthed Tyson Fury's true current form.

Overall all mate, I get it 'You enjoyed the Wilder vs Fury trilogy. I also enjoyed the trilogy, the rivalry was awesome'. What made the match up great was the passion, the resolve and determination.

But skill for skill, the match up was messy, clumsy, a technically all over the place match up 'Especially Wilder vs Fury III'.

If you want to sit here and try and make it out to be something it was not 'If you want to try and claim that Wilder vs Fury III, is the gold standard of Heavyweight boxing of this era skill for skill. Then you are going to have to believe a lot nonsense, you are gong to have to convince yourself that technically, clumsy all over the place boxing is great boxing'.

If you want to do that? Go for it 'I am not going to be doing that mate'.

Deep down you know what you are saying is nonsense, that is why you are not saying much.

But if you want to expand more on why you think Wilder vs Fury III is the greatest match up in it's entire totality of this era 'Then go ahead mate, expand more than just quoting me and trying to disagree'.

The stage is right here mate, I want to know why and how you can rate Wilder vs Fury III skill for skill so highly? Was Wilder's inside fighting on the level of Evander Holyfeild's? Was Fury's mid to long range boxing and defense great? Is squaring up on the inside as if he was opening the front door to his house, a elite level move? No.

You enjoyed the match up, you enjoyed the passion 'And the determination on display'.

But seriously mate, stop it with the nonsense 'Wilder vs Fury III, is not the Gold Standard match up of Heavyweight boxing in totality skill for skill' within this era etc.

It's not even close.

[James]

No way this happens. Only if Joshua loses against Otto.

[_Rexy_]

Complete BS. AJ isn't fighting 3 months after Otto, and you're waiting to fight for the vacant IBF.

[57Blues]

Hearn talks too much ****. I guess that's what promoters are supposed to do.

Hearn promotes by talking about the next fight, after this fight after we pick your pockets a little bit more after we talk up fights that do not matter and every dime is stolen on cheap no matter fights then Hearn will talk to death why he did not make the fights he promised. They all do it Hearn is bit more annoying and aggitating then the other guys look at what happened last night a one sided fight that should never have been on PPV and yet people thought it was a "event" not to be missed. In boxing if they promote anything long and hard enough and people will buy it ...............these are the articles or promo pieces fight fans get. It dont matter unless you buy into the lie..........