Comments Thread For: Photos: Terence Crawford Beats Down, Stops Errol Spence - HUGE Gallery

[JLC]

The point that you ignored is, a rematch is worth it regardless of the outcome of the first because there's noise about Spence's physical state.

You silence that noise with a rematch, just like Fury silenced Wilder.

But, what I say, is how fans feel. Marks simply want guys to move on to the next 'eye test'.

why I gotta be a mark ? Cuz I don’t agree with you ???

Not every fight requires a rematch. This wasn’t Pacquiao Marquez 1. This was a one sided ass beating. It’s hard enough as it is to make meaningful fights in boxing. With Terrance and Charlo both on similar schedules fighting 2 months apart I’d much rather see Bud v Charlo in something we all think would be more competitive than to revisit this BS off the backs of an excuse that weight was the issue.

You can never silence the noise. Somebody (marks) is always going to have an excuse or reason for an L.

[Combat Talk Radio]

why I gotta be a mark ? Cuz I don’t agree with you ???

Not every fight requires a rematch. This wasn’t Pacquiao Marquez 1. This was a one sided ass beating. It’s hard enough as it is to make meaningful fights in boxing. With Terrance and Charlo both on similar schedules fighting 2 months apart I’d much rather see Bud v Charlo in something we all think would be more competitive than to revisit this BS off the backs of an excuse that weight was the issue.

You can never silence the noise. Somebody (marks) is always going to have an excuse or reason for an L.

Lennox Lewis got stopped by Rahman. Nobody criticized his desire to run it back.

We saw what happened when he did.

The problem is, people who still watch, vast majority of you have changed. You no longer have loyalty to the fighters or the sport, you just look for the next 'eye test'. That's not how it used to be.

That's why we're in this narrative where one loss causes so-called "fans" to completely turn on the fighter and swear them off for good.

It happened with Keef, too (Manny) . That wasn't one-sided, it was close, yet vast majority around here didn't want a rematch. Close vs. dominant is not the issue, people only want to see rematches when THEIR guy loses.

I want to see a rematch when I'm not sure that one of them showed up on the night. The way boxing fans used to think. And the way I think is how we ended up with the excellent Berto/Ortiz trilogy.

[JLC]

Lennox Lewis got stopped by Rahman. Nobody criticized his desire to run it back.

We saw what happened when he did.

The problem is, people who still watch, vast majority of you have changed. You no longer have loyalty to the fighters or the sport, you just look for the next 'eye test'. That's not how it used to be.

That's why we're in this narrative where one loss causes so-called "fans" to completely turn on the fighter and swear them off for good.

It happened with Keef, too (Manny) . That wasn't one-sided, it was close, yet vast majority around here didn't want a rematch. Close vs. dominant is not the issue, people only want to see rematches when THEIR guy loses.

I want to see a rematch when I'm not sure that one of them showed up on the night. The way boxing fans used to think. And the way I think is how we ended up with the excellent Berto/Ortiz trilogy.

Respect to you for having an opinion.

not sure why you’re comparing Lewis Rahman, a fight where Lewis was a HUGE favorite who was up on all scorecards who got hit w a great shot and got sparked, with Crawford Spence, a fight where the favorite won, but not only won won easily. Dominantly. All rounds. 3 knockdowns. And a knockout.

but you have your own opinion, and I don’t have to disrespect you or question your intelligence, integrity, or quality of a boxing fan because of it.

you will likely get your way and we will witness a rematch. I’ll watch it. And the odds, expectation, and result will all perfectly line up and we will see another Bud win. Hooray for boxing and “real” fans.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Respect to you for having an opinion.

not sure why you’re comparing ....

It's not about the OUTCOME.

It's about recognizing that every fighter - EVERY FIGHTER - deserves a chance to run it back if they want, and REAL FANS support them doing so.

Lennox Lewis got KNOCKED OUT. He got a chance to avenge it.
Subriel Matias got dominated. He got a chance to avenge it.
Andre Berto got dropped multiple times and dominated otherwise. He got a chance to avenge it.
Macho Camacho got all he could handle against Greg Haugen. He got a chance to avenge it.
Rid**** Bowe only ever lost to Evander Holyfield. He got a change to avenge it.

Anthony F'n Joshua was WRECKED by Andy Ruiz in the first fight. He got a chance to avenge it.


In every last one of those situations, the guy people said had "no chance" and "same outcome" ended up coming out on top.

That's how boxing should work. Not dismissing a guy because of one bad performance. That's why guys like Michael Spinks went into hiding, because fans did the same crap to him even though he was still arguably one of the best out there.

Real fans support fighters who want the chance to run it back. Especially if they're not age-wise over the hill, like Eubank vs. Carl Thompson for example. But even there, fans at the time supported Eubank at least trying again, even though it was clear from the first fight he had no chance of winning.

[JLC]

It's not about the OUTCOME.

It's about recognizing that every fighter - EVERY FIGHTER - deserves a chance to run it back if they want, and REAL FANS support them doing so.

Lennox Lewis got KNOCKED OUT. He got a chance to avenge it.
Subriel Matias got dominated. He got a chance to avenge it.
Andre Berto got dropped multiple times and dominated otherwise. He got a chance to avenge it.
Macho Camacho got all he could handle against Greg Haugen. He got a chance to avenge it.
Rid**** Bowe only ever lost to Evander Holyfield. He got a change to avenge it.

Anthony F'n Joshua was WRECKED by Andy Ruiz in the first fight. He got a chance to avenge it.


In every last one of those situations, the guy people said had "no chance" and "same outcome" ended up coming out on top.

That's how boxing should work. Not dismissing a guy because of one bad performance. That's why guys like Michael Spinks went into hiding, because fans did the same crap to him even though he was still arguably one of the best out there.

Real fans support fighters who want the chance to run it back. Especially if they're not age-wise over the hill, like Eubank vs. Carl Thompson for example. But even there, fans at the time supported Eubank at least trying again, even though it was clear from the first fight he had no chance of winning.

man, make your points without reaching or speaking falsehoods. Most people said LENNOX LEWIS didn’t have a chance in the rematch ??? Come on ! Lol

even AJ was a favorite to beat Ruiz the second go round I’m sure, because the first fight was a HUGE UPSET. I’m not telling you that boxing rematches are preposterous in general. I’m simply saying this right in my humble opinion doesn’t warrant one. It’s really simple. And again, I’m not speaking for “real fans” because I’m smart enough to know just because someone doesn’t agree w my opinion on if a rematch is warranted doesn’t make them any less knowledgeable or real than I am.

buddy got his ass beat. Let’s move on and make some new matchups. Give him time to build himself back up if anything. But hey that’s just me….

[Combat Talk Radio]

man, make your points without reaching or speaking falsehoods. Most people said LENNOX LEWIS didn’t have a chance in the rematch ??? Come on ! Lol

even AJ was a favorite to beat Ruiz the second go round I’m sure, because the first fight was a HUGE UPSET. I’m not telling you that boxing rematches are preposterous in general. I’m simply saying this right in my humble opinion doesn’t warrant one. It’s really simple. And again, I’m not speaking for “real fans” because I’m smart enough to know just because someone doesn’t agree w my opinion on if a rematch is warranted doesn’t make them any less knowledgeable or real than I am.

buddy got his ass beat. Let’s move on and make some new matchups. Give him time to build himself back up if anything. But hey that’s just me….

You straight up did a Chewbacca on Joshua. You're changing your logic.

JOSHUA GOT WRECKED.

By your initial logic, there was no point in a rematch.

But we DID get a rematch - and Joshua won.

Why then do you think Spence can't win a rematch for the same damn reason?

That's the problem. You're not being consistent.

One loss and you've basically trashed Spence for good, yet Joshua gets wrecked WORSE and you were willing to give him a chance.

Do you understand why that makes you look like a hypocrite?

[JLC]

You straight up did a Chewbacca on Joshua. You're changing your logic.

JOSHUA GOT WRECKED.

By your initial logic, there was no point in a rematch.

But we DID get a rematch - and Joshua won.

Why then do you think Spence can't win a rematch for the same damn reason?

That's the problem. You're not being consistent.

One loss and you've basically trashed Spence for good, yet Joshua gets wrecked WORSE and you were willing to give him a chance.

Do you understand why that makes you look like a hypocrite?

It’s all good. We don’t agree. But I’m sure you will get the rematch you’re so interested in so cong****. If you’d ever like to place a wager against Bud let me know !

[Combat Talk Radio]

It’s all good. We don’t agree. But I’m sure you will get the rematch you’re so interested in so cong****. If you’d ever like to place a wager against Bud let me know !

It's a waste of time betting with you because you're too much of a Crawford mark.

This isn't about who would or would not win.

The world at large was cheated out of a competitive match.

FFS, Mayweather/Pacquiao was more competitive - and Pacquiao barely tried.

Jeff Horn was more competitive against Crawford over 9 rounds. Jeff Horn.

After what you saw with Spence/Porter and Spence actually fighting back, trying, energy, etc. in that fight...after you saw Spence willingly going blow for blow against Danny Swift, trying, energy, etc., for you to then be satisfied with a Crawford win that had Spence basically not even half try. And not even questioning how illogical it was for him.

This wasn't even about skill. Spence wasn't there. It was like watching the guy go into a fight fresh off waking up after an all-nighter. And we don't know if that's what happened or not.

If you're satisfied with what you got, that's definition mark. You're a Crawford mark and you only cared about Crawford winning, not about getting your money's worth out of BOTH guys.

[JLC]

It's a waste of time betting with you because you're too much of a Crawford mark.

This isn't about who would or would not win.

The world at large was cheated out of a competitive match.

FFS, Mayweather/Pacquiao was more competitive - and Pacquiao barely tried.

Jeff Horn was more competitive against Crawford over 9 rounds. Jeff Horn.

After what you saw with Spence/Porter and Spence actually fighting back, trying, energy, etc. in that fight...after you saw Spence willingly going blow for blow against Danny Swift, trying, energy, etc., for you to then be satisfied with a Crawford win that had Spence basically not even half try. And not even questioning how illogical it was for him.

This wasn't even about skill. Spence wasn't there. It was like watching the guy go into a fight fresh off waking up after an all-nighter. And we don't know if that's what happened or not.

If you're satisfied with what you got, that's definition mark. You're a Crawford mark and you only cared about Crawford winning, not about getting your money's worth out of BOTH guys.

I saw Bud more focused last Saturday than I’ve ever seen him before. He was not getting hit as much early. He came out IMMEDIATELY in the southpaw stance, when normally he comes out orthodox. He took Errol way more seriously than he took his past opponents, and that was obvious to me.

the world wasn’t robbed of anything. They fought. Spence got beat. It’s boxing. You win some you lose some.

also: you’re an idiot. I’m a mark but you have a pizza avatar of Spence and Bud in your signature ? Clearly you are a Spence fan and you salty your guy lost and want that run back. But be happy, cuz you’re going to get that rematch. I know that since you’re hanging from his balls the rematch is super important to you and I’m happy it’s going to happen. Hopefully at 154. I wish you the best of luck.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I saw Bud more focused last Saturday than I’ve ever seen him before. He was not getting hit as much early. He came out IMMEDIATELY in the southpaw stance, when normally he comes out orthodox. He took Errol way more seriously than he took his past opponents, and that was obvious to me.

the world wasn’t robbed of anything. They fought. Spence got beat. It’s boxing. You win some you lose some.

also: you’re an idiot. I’m a mark but you have a pizza avatar of Spence and Bud in your signature ? Clearly you are a Spence fan and you salty your guy lost and want that run back. But be happy, cuz you’re going to get that rematch. I know that since you’re hanging from his balls the rematch is super important to you and I’m happy it’s going to happen. Hopefully at 154. I wish you the best of luck.

I've always been of both fighters. But I recognize Crawford held out because of poor business acumen. That's what the signature implies - having a laugh at Crawford's suffering on the business end of things.

I said multiple times: Crawford/Boots is 50-50. I also said before the fight that I didn't Spence/Crawford as 50-50.

What I didn't expect, was Spence to basically not show up. Because we've seen that he's more than what he showed.

I don't subscribe to doctor narrative or whatever, because we saw against Ugas that Spence was nowhere near as out-of-it as he was against Crawford. But he was losing that fight early on.

My issue is - and the doctor did bring up the valid point - Crawford has NEVER looked that dominant. Even against the worst of his opponents (arguably Indongo), he's never looked that dominant. And Spence has never looked that weak against any opponent, even after the wreck.

That's smoke. I don't like smoke.

I do find it comical that NSB accused Canelo of PEDs when he smashed Billy Juice Saunders' face in a shocking outcome and obliterated Plant, yet with Crawford, we take it on face that he just somehow improved. He didn't even look that dominant against F'n Avanesyan and that's with no padding in the gloves!