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    #41
    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Personally I feel Spences resume is better than TCs, Im a fan of both I think Spence beat much better versions of common opponents.
    It's not really comparable... Crawford cleared out two division working on his third where Spence is just finishing his first if he wins.

    It would be comparable if Spence cleaned out WW JMW and working on MW.

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      #42
      Originally posted by cork View Post

      It's not really comparable... Crawford cleared out two division working on his third where Spence is just finishing his first if he wins.

      It would be comparable if Spence cleaned out WW JMW and working on MW.
      Belts don't mean to me what they mean to you, I look at who holds the belt and what form they were in when a guy beat them, Postal Gamboa Algeiri Peterson, the list goes on all average guys in my book, I still think Errols is a little stronger than TC because of better versions of Porter and Brook, in the big picture I don't think either guys resume compares to the last eras top guys, cleaned out don't mean much when its cleaning out rubbish.
      Last edited by Roadblock; 07-28-2023, 08:34 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by danceswithfire View Post
        unless it is a dominant win , yes winner will take the number 2 spot with inoue as the number 1
        We could ve found out who was the best out of these 2 over 5 years ago.Instead these 2 have been marinating out to make it seem as if it bigger than it is and more than it is, to say who wins becomes pfp no1 thats self absorbed and diva ' ish, what posers they'd be!? It's their problem they were prepared to wait this long to see whose the better of the 2, you don't get bonus points for it.

        No, even being dominant against against one another don't mean anything, unless it's in 4th weight class and first fight in weight class. The playing field needs to be equal with Inoue we can't give special treatment
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-28-2023, 08:47 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          We could ve found out who was the best out of these 2 over 5 years ago.Instead these 2 have been marinating out to make it seem as if it bigger than it is and more than it is, to say who wins becomes pfp no1 thats self absorbed and diva ' ish, what posers they'd be!? It's their problem they were prepared to wait this long to see whose the better of the 2, you don't get bonus points for it.

          No, even being dominant against against one another don't mean anything, unless it's in 4th weight class and first fight in weight class. The playing field needs to be equal with Inoue we can't give special treatment
          Man you are braindead, you ramble so much total BS it amazes me.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            Man you are braindead, you ramble so much total BS it amazes me.
            No, what you will find with me is im fair. What, Bud and Spence are so good that Inoue needs to be 7 division titikist like pac before he can be no1 pfp?
            Just admit it, that's what you want!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              Because he is one of the best WWs in the world I don't make the rankings is what it is.

              Also understand what P4P is, Spence at any weight class is competitive with anyone, that's what p4p means its a mythical if they were all the same size.


              he's just another title holder

              no defense record
              no hofer on his resume
              no great skills other than toughness


              dude is overrated af

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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                I'm sure those guys Fulton struggled with are good fighters.
                Bud needs to beat Tim Tzsy u in first fight at lmw. That's fair isn't it. Tim probably isn't as good as Fulton, so we are making it easier for bud, but really it should be charlo, that bud needs to best to make us believe Bud is a real pfp fighter. It's the only way to fairly gauge it, everything else is opinions. But beating Tim Tszyu or Charlo we are then dealing more in mathematics equations which is fairest way?
                Inoue is no1 pf p regardless who wins.
                You've never heard of those guys that fulton md. That's why you can't name them. Tim is levels above fulton.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                  No, what you will find with me is im fair. What, Bud and Spence are so good that Inoue needs to be 7 division titikist like pac before he can be no1 pfp?
                  Just admit it, that's what you want!
                  Your not fair youre as biased as fck lol.

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                    #49
                    Should be #2 , but seeing they are American and the #1 guy is not, then the Americans get the choice.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



                      he's just another title holder

                      no defense record
                      no hofer on his resume
                      no great skills other than toughness


                      dude is overrated af
                      I don't control ratings they don't mean much to me, I don't look at belts and trinkets I look at fighters and what they bring, for me Inoue is the man right now with TC Spence Canelo Bivol Beterbiev all world-class guys that could compete in any era.

                      You hate too much to be able to see the big picture and you have not been around long enough to have a grounded idea of top-level fighters, its favouritism with you more than anything else.

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