Comments Thread For: The Monster Ices Cool Boy: Afterthoughts

[Rebelrbg]

I actually think that Fulton should move up to try and get a belt before Inoue gets there, so that he can get another shot at him at a weight that is more comfortable for him to make. I just watched the fight last night, and Stephen didn't fight in any way like he normally does. He was tentative from the start to the end, and refused to let his hands go even at a comfortable distance with the longer reach. I understand being defensively responsible, but there's a chance that you have to take to earn the opponent's and judges' respect.

Maybe now, after seeing and feeling what he's up against, he will be better prepared not to let Inoue control the distance, pace, and be more aggressive with his game plan. The one thing he can't do, is sit and wait on the Monster to get careless, because even if he hits him with a counter shot, Inoue is going to continue to throw combinations until he gets his lick back. At 126, Fulton should have more confidence to actually fight, instead of just reacting and being cautious. Congratulations to Inoue, he showed the heart and courage of a champion, and fought HIS fight, and refused to see it go any other way.

[Poopdick]

I actually think that Fulton should move up to try and get a belt before Inoue gets there, so that he can get another shot at him at a weight that is more comfortable for him to make. I just watched the fight last night, and Stephen didn't fight in any way like he normally does. He was tentative from the start to the end, and refused to let his hands go even at a comfortable distance with the longer reach. I understand being defensively responsible, but there's a chance that you have to take to earn the opponent's and judges' respect.

Maybe now, after seeing and feeling what he's up against, he will be better prepared not to let Inoue control the distance, pace, and be more aggressive with his game plan. The one thing he can't do, is sit and wait on the Monster to get careless, because even if he hits him with a counter shot, Inoue is going to continue to throw combinations until he gets his lick back. At 126, Fulton should have more confidence to actually fight, instead of just reacting and being cautious. Congratulations to Inoue, he showed the heart and courage of a champion, and fought HIS fight, and refused to see it go any other way.

Fulton fought that way because the talent dictated it for him. that is how boxing goes.

[ELPacman]

I finally caught the fight in its entirely last night. Honestly, based on the comments, I expected Inoue to get tagged a lot less. It was dominate in how much he dished out, but he did receive quite a few head snapping punches in return. If Fulton had more pop, I think they would of hurt Inoue. Like, to be P4P #1, I'm not sure you should get hit that much. Though that said, I enjoyed the performance overall. I just wonder if we're over rating Fulton, thus over rating Inoue?

Remember Cory Spinks? Dude had not much pop, but was well received because of his technical skills. Then you get a guy like Zab Judah who already beat him once, but came back in the rematch and just over powered him because he probably thought, why the heck not? He didn't have much pop, or at least not enough to hurt him, so he went all out to get the KO and got it. I can't help but be reminded of that performance with this one. Inoue felt there wasn't much pop coming from Fulton and figure he could just overpower him.

[Knuckle sandwich]

Fulton fought that way because the talent dictated it for him. that is how boxing goes.

Prolly should just go to 126, waiting for Inoue to move up from 122 looks kinda bad. I do think fulton can fight better against the monster, problem is Inoue trains to destroy, I thought Inoue was over eager, maybe could have got the TKO sooner

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[BlackRobb]

Ramirez needs to see El Venado first. That will be a very tall order in of itself. I think Fulton can do well at 126 if he's matched well. He needs to strengthen his legs.

[Just looking]

What I saw was a man completely developed in his frame against another who wasn't

[Rebelrbg]

Fulton fought that way because the talent dictated it for him. that is how boxing goes.

I disagree. He fought plenty of talented fighters before, it was moreso the unknown of the amount of power and whether he was willing to risk taking it, versus employing his own offense regardless. Inoue was willing to take the risk in order to fight HIS fight no matter what. Fulton, obviously, was not.

[Rebelrbg]

Prolly should just go to 126, waiting for Inoue to move up from 122 looks kinda bad. I do think fulton can fight better against the monster, problem is Inoue trains to destroy, I thought Inoue was over eager, maybe could have got the TKO sooner

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Why would it look bad for Fulton to get a belt at 126 and fight him again? Stephen had already planned to move up until the Inoue fight was presented to him. Now,. that he knows what he is going to face, he should be much more willing to fight his fight at a more convenient weight.

[Oldskoolg]

I disagree. He fought plenty of talented fighters before, it was moreso the unknown of the amount of power and whether he was willing to risk taking it, versus employing his own offense regardless. Inoue was willing to take the risk in order to fight HIS fight no matter what. Fulton, obviously, was not.

No risks taken, at all. Fulton made up his mind that he was going to survive and nothing else. Once he caught the speed and crisp bread basket jabs, he really just got on his bycycle. It’s a shame because he actually landed especially late. Anytime someone makes up their mind they just want to survive they not only forfeit any possibility of winning, but they oddly seem to increase their probability of getting stopped, especially against a bully type fighter

[Theshotyoudontsee]

I finally caught the fight in its entirely last night. Honestly, based on the comments, I expected Inoue to get tagged a lot less. It was dominate in how much he dished out, but he did receive quite a few head snapping punches in return. If Fulton had more pop, I think they would of hurt Inoue. Like, to be P4P #1, I'm not sure you should get hit that much. Though that said, I enjoyed the performance overall. I just wonder if we're over rating Fulton, thus over rating Inoue?

Remember Cory Spinks? Dude had not much pop, but was well received because of his technical skills. Then you get a guy like Zab Judah who already beat him once, but came back in the rematch and just over powered him because he probably thought, why the heck not? He didn't have much pop, or at least not enough to hurt him, so he went all out to get the KO and got it. I can't help but be reminded of that performance with this one. Inoue felt there wasn't much pop coming from Fulton and figure he could just overpower him.

This. Fulton has never been much of a puncher. The pre fight hype was built around "Fulton is the better boxer, Inoue has the power"....but anyone who had watched Inoue previously knew that he was a great boxer along with the power. Fulton is a tough guy and fights with heart, but he was not and is not a great fighter, just a good boxer....with no power. This is why Inoue immediately called for the fight, Fulton is really tailor made for Inoue's skill set. Again, the pre fight "Fulton is a huge challenge" stuff was created to build the hype.

People are saying Inoue will beat Ramirez if he moves up, but I think they may be in for a shock. Ramirez has real power, and is all around highly skilled. He won't run and be shocked by Inoue's power, and Inoue gets hit flush quite a bit. I think Ramirez would likely be the stopping point in Inoue's "he is unbeatable and unreal" run. And I love watching Inoue. But Fulton, regardless of the hype, was not some real test of Inoue. It will take a prime guy with real power in order to give Inoue a classic type of fight. Slick boxer with no power, he is going to destroy them.

Also, Inoue looked much stronger in terms of frame and his legs for sure. He obviously has put the weight on in the gym in a slow and methodical way, along with having genetically large calves. Which explains alot of his power. Pac had insane calves. Power comes from the legs unless you are Wilder, his comes from leverage and the wind up.