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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    How do you come to that conclusion when it was Usyk who walked away from the table when removing the rematch clause was offered?

    I can't understand how Fury can be at fault for that.


    it was usual Fury negotiations nonsense.

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      #42
      If you really think about it, did Usyk really accept 70-30? Their acceptance of that split was conditional; 1mil to Ukraine and 70-30 for Usyk in the rematch should he win the first fight.

      Fury’s initial 70-30 offer is what killed the fight. Usyk’s team couldn’t completely agree to it, it created more stipulations neither side could agree on and the fight was dead.
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        #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        50-50 would be fair, which is what he accepted for AJ.

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        Your point here has a few issues, firstly usyk was a nobody at heavyweight with no titles and barely squeaked past chisora, he was also i believe mando so joshua had to fight this guy. Eddie was shook of the fight so slid in a rematch clause for joshua even tho usyk was mando.

        Usyk beat joshua x2 and now has most of the titles and is in a much stronger position, i think someone mentioned his fight v chisora bizarrely did better than furys v chisora (from memory could be wrong here) so to say that since usky accepted 50% v joshua as a nobody is comparable to his current position has issues as an argument would u agree?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Superbee View Post


          So you're saying that even if Usyk beats Fury (and becomes undisputed in the process) that same Usyk who's now at the top of the world can't ask for the bigger slice of the pie ? Seriously ?
          Not 70-30 no of course not because he's no where near the level of draw.

          The same way he had 3 of the belts and AJ had none in the rematch yet he accepted 50-50.

          Why would he accept that for AJ and not Fury?

          But again this is irrelevant because the offer was to scrap it that was when he walked.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Indict45 View Post



            it was usual Fury negotiations nonsense.
            So why not accept it?

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Why not?

              He'd accepted the 70-30 apparently. Why let the fight go over a rematch clause when surely getting rid of it is the easiest and best option.
              Why should Usyk have to spread his cheeks to every Fury demand ????

              WTF, you have to think Fury would have found some other reason to run away.
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                #47
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                So why not accept it?


                Usyk doesn’t need to accept being messed around. Let Fury mess somebody else around. Usyk has more important things to do.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Smash View Post
                  plus apparently usyk had agreed terms with the saudi for the fight in saudi but fury demanded 500mil or enough for the saudi to tell him to go away and get serious, im sure usyk is like wtf is this guy on some type of drugs, he priced himself out of saudi arabia & im sure a big payday for usky which was agreed, then demands 70% and wants rematch clause then takes it out and more crap as well, thats enough drive anyone mad, fury madness
                  There were no serious offers from Saudi they were lying, Saudi told them they do not want the fight yet. People claim Fury couldn't agree with Saudi. Yet here is fighting Ngannou in SAUDI for a lot of money. Saudis signed Usyk but they want Fury Usyk just not yet, after Ngannou fight it will be the plan, first Fury Ngannou will boost eyes on Saudi

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                    There were no serious offers from Saudi they were lying, Saudi told them they do not want the fight yet. People claim Fury couldn't agree with Saudi. Yet here is fighting Ngannou in SAUDI for a lot of money. Saudis signed Usyk but they want Fury Usyk just not yet, after Ngannou fight it will be the plan, first Fury Ngannou will boost eyes on Saudi
                    Well arum and others said usyk agreed his deal with the saudis so there must have been something going on & there is another article where a saudi guy (i think cant remember exactly but i remember the jist as it was laughed at on here i will look for it) said the reason it fell through was furys exorbitant demands. His fight with the mma guy is totally separate and i dont see how u can say that if one fell through the other cant be made?? fury is fine with picking up easy cash im sure

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                      There were no serious offers from Saudi they were lying,i
                      fury is also on record in the media saying he wants 500mil from the saudis for his fight v usyk so that was his mindset going into those talks

                      he was shown the door and told where to go so off he went i think, maybe he will be more reasonable next time is what im thinking

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