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    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    **** "fight"

    But the reality is they know they will make a killing because it will attract a massive audience.

    that's why we all know it was bound to happen at some point because it's big business but really has nothing to do with boxing

    I won't be paying to watch it but plenty will
    You love making excuses for Fury. He could fight 3 more UFC guys and you would say ‘making money, Floyd does it’

    You’re not a boxing fan. You’re a fanboy

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      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
      The funny thing is that as an actual fight this really has no selling point at all.

      With Mayweather and McGregor, anyone with any sense knew that Mayweather was going to toy with him but at least you could kind of make a little selling point about it to the average person and say Floyd's old and retired and McGregor was supposed to be a big hitter and all these things...

      but in terms of this one there's nothing in it you can really sell about it as an actual fight. one is still an active fighter that's considered the best heavyweight out there and one has never boxed before. and you can't even create a selling point that and Ngannou has some great power or something when Fury already whooped Wilder three times.

      I know lots of people will watch it because of name value so it doesn't matter. It's just going to be funny to see how they're actually going to try and sell the actual fight itself as competitive.

      Agreed. Mayweather and McGregor made sense at the time promotionally speaking. You had the biggest MMA star of all time in his prime who could sell waterfront property in Nevada VS the biggest boxer who was a couple years off retirement. Then add in McGregor is younger, bigger and you end up with something you can sell to the public. Also add in the UFC is copromoting this and the biggest catch of it all is that this is when the UFC vs Boxing was a novel thing no one really did at this point.

      Now it's 6 years later and we've seen this done over and over to the point of Youtuber like Jake Paul flatlining UFC guys. Add in Tyson is in his prime, bigger than Ngannou and Ngannou is no where the star the Conor was. Lastly UFC isn't copromoting it.

      UFC fans pretty much all know Ngannou is toast in this which wasn't the case when McGregor fought. They believed there was some chance then(Conor being younger, bigger and they haven't seen a UFC guy really box at that point). The narration around this fight is Ngannou wants money and Tyson wants an easy fight. It's a terrible fight to promote.

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        This almost like Apollo Creed give Rocky a shot. I'm happy for Francis. He took a gamble and left big money if he stayed in the UFC, and gets the big payday he wanted. He's not likely to win, but with that being said, Tyson has been knocked down by many boxers...Neven Pajkic/Steve Cunningham/Wilder and I can't remember but someone else (I think a Polish guy). He also got rocked by a railway worker, John McDermott. So it's not impossible that Ngannou won't hit him, and Ngannou is a devastating puncher to say the least.

        It's not the fight anybody wanted, but I'll watch it anyway, and so will most.

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          Originally posted by richmondthefish View Post


          Agreed. Mayweather and McGregor made sense at the time promotionally speaking. You had the biggest MMA star of all time in his prime who could sell waterfront property in Nevada VS the biggest boxer who was a couple years off retirement. Then add in McGregor is younger, bigger and you end up with something you can sell to the public. Also add in the UFC is copromoting this and the biggest catch of it all is that this is when the UFC vs Boxing was a novel thing no one really did at this point.

          Now it's 6 years later and we've seen this done over and over to the point of Youtuber like Jake Paul flatlining UFC guys. Add in Tyson is in his prime, bigger than Ngannou and Ngannou is no where the star the Conor was. Lastly UFC isn't copromoting it.

          UFC fans pretty much all know Ngannou is toast in this which wasn't the case when McGregor fought. They believed there was some chance then(Conor being younger, bigger and they haven't seen a UFC guy really box at that point). The narration around this fight is Ngannou wants money and Tyson wants an easy fight. It's a terrible fight to promote.
          You make some solid points here and really hit the nail on the head with the narration around this fight. It's a terrible fight, but no one will care too much about promoting it because the money comes from the Saudi's pockets. It will be a big, garish, expensive spectacle and that will attract some vacuous eyeballs from around the world, and that will be enough for the Saudis, who just want to build their brand and have their country associated with sport rather than oil and beheadings, even though they have no great sporting tradition, but a long history of oil and beheadings.
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            Is the WBC belt on the line? I hope so, and then please please please Francis land a once in a lifetime lucky ​shot and then we can have Usyk vs Ngannou for the undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the world and the whole world will see what a sad joke professional boxing has become.

            Except Fury would have a rematch clause in there anyway I suppose.

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              The title is not on the line

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                Is this any worse than Ali giving a title shot to Chuck Wepner who was a literal journeyman?

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                  Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                  The funny thing is that as an actual fight this really has no selling point at all.

                  With Mayweather and McGregor, anyone with any sense knew that Mayweather was going to toy with him but at least you could kind of make a little selling point about it to the average person and say Floyd's old and retired and McGregor was supposed to be a big hitter and all these things...

                  but in terms of this one there's nothing in it you can really sell about it as an actual fight. one is still an active fighter that's considered the best heavyweight out there and one has never boxed before. and you can't even create a selling point that and Ngannou has some great power or something when Fury already whooped Wilder three times.

                  I know lots of people will watch it because of name value so it doesn't matter. It's just going to be funny to see how they're actually going to try and sell the actual fight itself as competitive.
                  Completely agree. It’s really banking on the ******ity of cross over and casual fans to try and make a buck. It’s a horrendous fight and embarrassing to Fury and boxing. The consensus #1 heavyweight in the world should wait until he’s retired to fight non-boxers like this. It’s just wasting more time for a guy whose clock is already ticking.

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                    Originally posted by sidefx996 View Post

                    Get a life dude. I can see boxing fans being pissed off about this but what does that say about you that you would wish that upon him just because you'll have to find something else to get drunk to on a Saturday night...
                    Go cry somewhere else.

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                      Hard for me to even be mad at this because Fury is just trying to get Francis paid like he will never get paid in MMA. I think Fury realizes what Ngannou has been through with UFC and wants to see the man get paid this late in his 30s.

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