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    #61
    Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post

    I never made that argument dumbass I was just pointing out how stank isn't some megastar you make em out to be. But yeah he drew 1mil buys by himself
    Tank is only getting bigger and he's already a top 2 draw in the US

    You incels act like Ryan is a bigger name than Tank but he wasn't before the fight and won't be after. Sorry to break it to you

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      #62
      Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post

      Tank's biggest gate before fighting Ryan = $5 million. Ryan's biggest gate before fighting Tank = $1.5 million. So you are obviously wrong.

      Can you name any name that Top Rank or Goldenboy has created these past 8 years who are as big as Tank and Spence.

      I'll wait you idiot. LMAO!
      PPV is where the money is at, and Tank didn't do shyt on PPV until he faced Garcia. That was why he cherry-picked and weight drained him to begin with. Tank has one major endorsement deal with Under Armour, Garcia has multiple deals with Gatorade, 1800 Tequila, Dior, and other brands. Tank would be more marketable if he wasn't a thuggish woman beater, LOL.

      Why cut it off at 8 years? GBP orchestrated the careers of Canelo and Garcia. Bigger than anything PBC ever did. The Charlo's are still fighting for peanuts. Wilder didn't see more than a million dollars with 39 fights until he got in the ring with Fury. Thurman didn't see more than $2 million until he fought Pac. Porter and Danny Garcia were barely scraping by until the end of their career. GTFOH with your fanboy obsession with PBC, ****-rider.
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        #63
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

        PPV is where the money is at, and Tank didn't do shyt on PPV until he faced Garcia. That was why he cherry-picked and weight drained him to begin with. Tank has one major endorsement deal with Under Armour, Garcia has multiple deals with Gatorade, 1800 Tequila, Dior, and other brands. Tank would be more marketable if he wasn't a thuggish woman beater, LOL.

        Why cut it off at 8 years? GBP orchestrated the careers of Canelo and Garcia. Bigger than anything PBC ever did. The Charlo's are still fighting for peanuts. Wilder didn't see more than a million dollars with 39 fights until he got in the ring with Fury. Thurman didn't see more than $2 million until he fought Pac. Porter and Danny Garcia were barely scraping by until the end of their career. GTFOH with your fanboy obsession with PBC, ****-rider.
        PBC was created 8 years ago you dumbass

        If Ryan is a bigger draw than Tank then why don't the numbers prove it? Why are his gates significantly less than Tank's and Spence's? Why didn't Ryan fight on PPV before? Why will Ryan still do less numbers than Tank in the future? Why?

        If Ryan was the bigger draw then the numbers would show it, are you really this ******? Holy ****
        Last edited by mcdonalds; 07-11-2023, 03:10 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post

          PBC was created 8 years ago you dumbass

          If Ryan is a bigger draw than Tank then why don't the numbers prove it? Why are his gates significantly less than Tank's and Spence's? Why didn't Ryan fight on PPV before? Why will Ryan still do less numbers than Tank in the future? Why?

          If Ryan was the bigger draw then the numbers would show it, are you really this ******? Holy ****
          Haymon was managing fighters since 2000 you mouthbreathing **********. Lol.

          Tank’s highest PPV prior to Ryan was 200K. It was Ryan who got them to 4x that. Tank will now duck Haney, Shakur, Loma and Teo. Let’s see if he can stay out of jail for the remainder of 2023, lol.

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            #65
            By rights, this ought to sell better than Ngannou v Fury. Will be a good litmus test for the health of boxing. Frankly, boxing NEEDS the casuals. Turning boxing into an elitist club full of people who don't actually know anything about the sweet science certainly hasn't been GOOD for boxing.

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              #66
              From all the streaming services, various networks (BT Sport, Sky, PBC, DAZN...) that only cause confusion, the multitude of belts, the lack of title fights a year, the awful promotions with no heat or rivalry, the almost decade long wait for top contenders to fight...mainstream audiences just don't follow anything beyond a popular HW title.

              Seriously, my kids know all about fighters before their time from playing Fight Night Champion and then watching their amazing fights on YouTube for free. They couldn't even tell you who the current HW champion is let alone who Spence and Crawford are.

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                #67
                Originally posted by TheSopranos View Post
                From all the streaming services, various networks (BT Sport, Sky, PBC, DAZN...) that only cause confusion, the multitude of belts, the lack of title fights a year, the awful promotions with no heat or rivalry, the almost decade long wait for top contenders to fight...mainstream audiences just don't follow anything beyond a popular HW title.

                Seriously, my kids know all about fighters before their time from playing Fight Night Champion and then watching their amazing fights on YouTube for free. They couldn't even tell you who the current HW champion is let alone who Spence and Crawford are.
                That's the thing I still see these days. You tell any casual about an upcoming boxing fight, and they still refer back to the Tyson days, lol. My thing is, if you don't have these streaming services, boxing is almost non-existent nowadays on regular cable. You basically have to SEEK it out, rather than it finding you. This is hurting the sport, since the young kids are seeking out MMA more so nowadays and the super casuals just don't care at all to try to watch something that is hard to get to (unless you rewatch fights on Youtube).
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

                  That's the thing I still see these days. You tell any casual about an upcoming boxing fight, and they still refer back to the Tyson days, lol. My thing is, if you don't have these streaming services, boxing is almost non-existent nowadays on regular cable. You basically have to SEEK it out, rather than it finding you. This is hurting the sport, since the young kids are seeking out MMA more so nowadays and the super casuals just don't care at all to try to watch something that is hard to get to (unless you rewatch fights on Youtube).
                  Can attest to this, Mike Tyson is the only thing that comes up when talking to a non hardcore fan about boxing.

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