Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Believes He Exposed Haney: "Now He Understands His Level"

[pugil1st]

Directly after the fight no one thought Haney won. Zero. Including Haney and his own dad. Lol.

90% is a low number. Based on the reactions from fighters after the fight, the outcry from fans and all those who were there, it was likely more like a 100%. But I say 90% for the Loma haters and Bill and Devin, who suddenly could see how Haney might have won, and started calling Loma a whiner, when before the decision was announced, EVERYONE knew Loma won. Lol.

The revisionist liars who for some reason like Haney, or dislike Loma, they all started the "it was really close" crap, knowing they were full of it. Ive watched it four times. Loma won easily. Haney looked ridiculous. Period.

All that to say you made that number up.

[jmrf4435]

Nobody gives a ****...

The.millions of fans, pundits, and x boxers who feel Loma was robbed agree and care

"Lets.moVe on" types feel insecure like you

The 3.haney fans suck ****ckc

Even his fans are pathetic

[jmrf4435]

All that to say you made that number up.

You are in a small minority to believe Haney won

Thse are facts

[MastaBlasta]

No, Teo won that fight fair, square and clean.

I agree but it was close too .... not as close, but close. Loma fans were moaning about that fight and an "immediate rematch" too.
PS - I'm actually a Loma fan, but without all the moaning and whining. Win your fight convincingly. Decisions are always someone's opinion. When a fight is close .... well ... sometimes you get a different opinion than your own.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I agree but it was close too .... not as close, but close. Loma fans were moaning about that fight and an "immediate rematch" too.

I'm a Loma fan. He lost that fight clean. It was clear by round 8 that he needed at least a knockdown to win. My issue was always that people gave Teo so much credit, and Loma did it to himself by giving away 7 rounds to start. He's really his own worst enemy. And he didn't go for a rematch clause, even though he was the champ with the leverage for it. He chose to go into the fight with the injury. Nobody to blame but himself. And the talk after he lost to Teo was nothing like this. Very few of the experts gave him the win in that fight. I can't think of one off the top of my head. But everyone scored the Haney fight for Loma. Not the same at all.

[MastaBlasta]

I'm sure that makes scene in some parallel universe but when Devin the "weight bully" announces his next shyt fight rather than a money fight with Loma I'm sure you'll have a clever excuse.

LoL, you must not have noticed that Haney just won a money fight with Loma ....

[MastaBlasta]

Come on now richardt. Loma is as bad as Wilder with all this.

Luckily loma didnt wear a large black costume on the way to the ring or there would be even more excuses. Lol.

Quote is too funny (but no picking on Wilder!). I had to find this post just to "like" it .... LoLoL!

But no picking on Wilder! He took behind the head punches, flabby glove punches, punches that left dents ... he had a right to talk a bit bizarre. For me the corner should have stopped it sooner.

[MastaBlasta]

I'm a Loma fan. He lost that fight clean. It was clear by round 8 that he needed at least a knockdown to win. My issue was always that people gave Teo so much credit, and Loma did it to himself by giving away 7 rounds to start. He's really his own worst enemy. And he didn't go for a rematch clause, even though he was the champ with the leverage for it. He chose to go into the fight with the injury. Nobody to blame but himself. And the talk after he lost to Teo was nothing like this. Very few of the experts gave him the win in that fight. I can't think of one off the top of my head. But everyone scored the Haney fight for Loma. Not the same at all.

I'm a Loma fan too. But not all experts give him the Haney fight. Also, those Judges are experts too, and their scoring wasn't egregious, it was a close fight.Several figters and experts have spoken after re-watching the fight ... that the decisipn was feasible. For me it could have gone either way and I wouldn't ave a problem ... because neither guy won convincingly. I don't like splitting hairs with decisions .... if it's reasonably a close fight then we get what we get. If Loma had used the energy to give Haney a beating we all could clearly see there would be no controversy. Neither guy did that so we get a decision in a close fight.

PS - Loma looked more beat up than the Teo fight after Haney, from what I saw. And the experts may not have complained, but Loma did ... for quite a while.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I'm a Loma fan too. But not all experts give him the Haney fight. Also, those Judges are experts too, and their scoring wasn't egregious, it was a close fight.Several figters and experts have spoken after re-watching the fight ... that the decisipn was feasible. For me it could have gone either way and I wouldn't ave a problem ... because neither guy won convincingly. I don't like splitting hairs with decisions .... if it's reasonably a close fight then we get what we get. If Loma had used the energy to give Haney a beating we all could clearly see there would be no controversy. Neither guy did that so we get a decision in a close fight.

PS - Loma looked more beat up than the Teo fight after Haney, from what I saw. And the experts may not have complained, but Loma did ... for quite a while.

Loma ate a lot of elbows to the face from Haney also. Take just one elbow to the face and see how marked up you are...

My issue here is that Top Rank was acting like they knew Haney was going to win before the fight even happened. They spent the whole build up to the fight designing a narrative to explain away a close points victory for Haney, and then called Haney the winner in the post fight for Muratalla before the main event had happened.

I also hate the BS notion that a close fight can't be a robbery. Close fights are the entire raison d'etre for judges. If it's not close, the decision is just a formality. And being close doesn't mean that there's not a clear winner anyways.

The rules permit 10-8 to winners of dominant rounds, for instance. It's ****** that a close round counts the same as a dominant round. Rounds that are too close to call can and should be called even. That's not to say that they shouldn't still try to choose a winner, but as it stands, really close rounds just go to whoever the judge wants (eg, was paid to have win).

It would be absolutely trivial to have the ability to review close rounds in slow speed, or to do instant reviews of bad calls like the ones made by Tony Weeks recently. And it would be trivial to put controversial decisions to a larger panel of randomly chosen judges to review, with penalties for judges whose cards differ too widely from the review. This sort of thing is common in other sports. Ask yourself honestly why boxing hasn't taken ANY of these easy steps to reduce controversy and corruption.

So yes, this fight can absolutely be a robbery despite being close. Corrupt judges aren't going to make it super obvious that they were paid off. Close fights are a gift for them to get away with it, not that they generally see any penalties anyways for bad cards.

[pugil1st]

You are in a small minority to believe Haney won

Thse are facts

Go back and read my post. You're too emotional about it making up numbers and facts.