Question about Loma Vs Haney

[Jsmooth9876]

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights.

His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1.

Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses.

Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one.

75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers.

[NC Uppercut]

75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers.

Unfortunately you are right! It’s probably 85% really! Gotta just laugh it off sometimes!

[The D3vil]

75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers.

That's exactly what's wrong with this board, too.

[Rockybigblower]

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights.

His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1.

Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses.

Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one.

I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue.

[NC Uppercut]

I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue.

I like to see the fighters clean out the division too! Unfortunately not all those other titleholders were willing to fight at the lower weights. We all know Loma is a 130 pounder. Sometimes the stars don’t align just right.

[L. Cipher]

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights.

His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1.

Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses.

Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one.

Not an apples to apples comparison. Loma turned pro at 25 and went straight to a 10 rounder then a title shot. Haney and Davis turned pro as teenagers and fought 4 and 6 rounders against journeymen with upside down records.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue.

That's certainly an acceptable way to demonstrate dominance in a division, but these days it takes too long to work your way through them all with all the fighters who don't actually want smoke. Loma chose to pursue undisputed in a division in which basically all the fighters have height and reach advantages on him though, and did manage to unify 3 belts already in that division, so I don't think he suffers much from that criteria either. The narrative that he ducked Haney, who was an unknown mandatory at the time, in favor of fighting an undefeated IBF champion with way more demonstrated knockout power is just asinine. Do people seriously think he should have fought the mandatory instead of going for undisputed?

Not an apples to apples comparison. Loma turned pro at 25 and went straight to a 10 rounder then a title shot. Haney and Davis turned pro as teenagers and fought 4 and 6 rounders against journeymen with upside down records.

It's not, but there's a reason that all of those things happened. Honestly I think Haney is due way more respect because he really did it the hard way, and really earned what he's got. But Loma got two Olympic gold medals and that gave him the fast track. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. Most gold medalists end up world champ eventually.