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    #31
    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
    Natural 140lbs when he fought there 3 times?
    look at his body, even floyds father commented that floyd was a natural 140lber. pbf looks the same size as other LWW's like malignaggi and bradley.

    in comparison to the likes of cotto, clottey and SSM pbf looks small. in comparison to the likes of jmm, diaz and guzman he looks big.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MOREBASS View Post
      Too many people writing Cotto off as damaged goods based on the Clottey fight, which is bull**** IMO.

      Clottey is arguably the 3rd or 4th best welterweight in the world, and has a difficult style. I'd say that the fight was difficult, based more on Clottey being a excellent fighter, than what people are claiming.

      Besides, Cotto fought most of the fight with one eye, which was an amazing feat in itself.
      It isnt based on the Clottey fight for me. Its based on being smashed around the head with two bricks for eleven rounds. Watch the Clottey fight again and count the number of times cotto stands square on and freezes. You even see his eyes widen when he does it,and that my friend is a symptom. Now go and watch the fights pre Margarito and tell ,me if you see him do that. You would have to watch a lot of rounds,believe me.

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        #33
        What would be most impressive is the fact that he isn't just taking on any welterweight.

        He's taking on the most accomplished welterweight, and definitely one of, if not the best 147 pound fighter in the world. Giving up advantages in size and power, in said fighter's own division.


        Floyd was an absolute nightmare in the lower weight divisions, and his work there is very impressive, but the fact is that he hasn't faced elite level competition in a long time, especially not in his own division.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Roger Mellie View Post
          No it doesnt,and I had Oscar winning that fight anyway.
          what fight were you watching

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            #35
            Yes it would. Floyd ducked him for 3 years.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Roger Mellie View Post
              It isnt based on the Clottey fight for me. Its based on being smashed around the head with two bricks for eleven rounds. Watch the Clottey fight again and count the number of times cotto stands square on and freezes. You even see his eyes widen when he does it,and that my friend is a symptom. Now go and watch the fights pre Margarito and tell ,me if you see him do that. You would have to watch a lot of rounds,believe me.
              see thats where i think people go wrong maybe because they forget bout the cut the cotto fought with he coul;d of easily pull a nate campbell

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                #37
                Originally posted by swizz View Post
                what fight were you watching
                A fight without my Mo'Money No money tinted specs on.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                  IMO, the win over the undefeated, prime ricky hatton > pacman beating cotto 2009
                  Really?

                  Hatton was undefeated in his actual weight class, which is where Manny fought him. You know as well as Floyd does that Ricky looked like **** at 147 against Collazo, a fighter maybe 1/10th as skilled as Floyd.



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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MOREBASS View Post
                    What would be most impressive is the fact that he isn't just taking on any welterweight.

                    He's taking on the most accomplished welterweight, and definitely one of, if not the best 147 pound fighter in the world. Giving up advantages in size and power, in said fighter's own division.


                    Floyd was an absolute nightmare in the lower weight divisions, and his work there is very impressive, but the fact is that he hasn't faced elite level competition in a long time, especially not in his own division.
                    he's taking on a fighter who gives him the most money right now....not to mention, both guys have the same promoter, and neither is willing to split with him.

                    bottom line is, pacman saw the clottey fight, and told arum afterwards to get this fight made. he knows cotto is damaged goods. like i said, he's still a good fighter, but to me he has lost 2 of his last 3 fights,and whether you guys want to admit it, this is not the same cotto pre- 7/08....pacman's a 2-1 favorite here, he's expected to win.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Roger Mellie View Post
                      A fight without my Mo'Money No money tinted specs on.
                      im sorry i hate floyd but he beat dhl at his weight 154

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