Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather. Why I view Manny as a VERY dangerous opponent.

[tantaran69]

I think floyd could of knocked out marquez if he really tried hard enough,it was important for him to go the distance to get used to it again.

Pacquiao might be a bit better than marquez pac has more speed and i don't agree that he's got a great footwork hes always doin the same,which is bounce in and out,you cant compare him with money may no way..he would last 12 rounds i think but at the end floyds boxing abilities would batter pac badly.

Thats exactly how it is. Pac have no footwork at all hes just jumping up n down in n out, is going to b really easy 4 Gayweather to timing him up and hit him as will. The only problem I see is he fighting style, angles, but then again Floyd is a boxer and he will get by him in a sec. Floyd is all defense and counter punching when he fights guys like Pac. I'm not nutthugging Floyd since to me hes a big piece of **** as a person but boxing wise, he is the #1.

[Doctor_Tenma]

b-hop doesnt have floyds defense skills,two different fighters..floyd benefits from fighters like that thats what he wants..its not always easy to stay active..i think marquez tried it didnt work.

A little example is all it was. B-Hop benefits from fighters like that also, sadly his age.

[DiLLiNGER]

A little example is all it was. B-Hop benefits from fighters like that also, sadly his age.

in my books he won the fight against joe,joes face told us more than a thousand scorecards.

[-Antonio-]

I just look at the guys who matched Floyd's speed and they had the most succes when compared to everyone else. Even Mitchell landed right hooks and straight lefts on Floyd. The southpaw stance won't allow Floyd to shoulder roll as much. He has to fight a much more offensive fight.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I just look at the guys who matched Floyd's speed and they had the most succes when compared to everyone else. Even Mitchell landed right hooks and straight lefts on Floyd. The southpaw stance won't allow Floyd to shoulder roll as much. He has to fight a much more offensive fight.

I was gonna bring that up, the Mitchell fight but Mayweather's objective was to stop him from the start. He didn't care to defend that much in that bout.

[street bully]

Floyd is a WW version of JMM with super speed and better defense. I will not pass judgement until I see how Pacquiao does against Cotto. If he struggles against him then there would be no point in fighting Mayweather.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

I dont think so really, i don't believe Pac stands a chance hell i dont think he will get past Cotto for sure too. I could be wrong but IMO we will know alot more after Cotto/Pac..

Cause right there he will be going up vs a TOP quality WW not the Skeleton off Oscar or Walk into punches and clearly not that with it anymore Hatton. What is Pacs power @ at WW? Diaz took punches all night and took a while to go down, Same with Oscar..

Like i said we will see with Cotto/Pac, if Pac can hurt a WW AND take the damage they dish out, currently he has barely been hit in his last 2 fights. I dont like Cotto much but he will surely change this, Pac win or lose will eat some WW leather come NOV.

IF he ko's Cotto there is a chance he can KO Floyd but i doubt it, Floyds not getting KO by one punch and wont be doing Pac the favour of running into his fist ala Hatton. One thing is for sure nobody wins a decision against Floyd unless he is injured mid fight or somethin imo.

[KingNade]

I agree 110% with your analogy. Floyd always has problems with southpaws, even his father knows this. Early in his career it is rumored that Floyd Sr called Roger from jail screaming at him for putting him in a fight with a southpaw. Now don't quote me on that its something I have heard and read before. Google it. Now Judah clearly hurt Mayweather, outclassed him for the first few rounds and then if you follow Judah you will see that it was not the counter punches that got him to stop fighting it was just plain ole Judah. Since when has he ever given 100% of himself other than the first 5 rounds max of a fight. It is very typical so no Floyd does not deserve that credit, to beat Judah simply just weather the storm, maintain your composure and let it happen. When Mayweather fought Corley he was visibly hurt as well and it was a competitive fight but at the same time Corley is not on the skill level of Judah. Both southpaws who faced Mayweather and the only two to ever visibly hurt him but one who didn't posses the talent to pursue and the other didn't posses the passion and desire to pursue. Manny Pacquiao is a relentless warrior who will continue to pursue Floyd even if he is behind all 12 rounds on the cards and will continue to throw with power, speed and a fire that I have not seen in that ring since a young Mike Tyson. Manny Pacquiao is nothing but trouble for Floyd. Styles make fights and even though I believe Floyd will paint him with punches as well, I definitely see Pacquiao coming out the victor, and we will be forced to find out if Floyd has the heart of a great fighter.

[Dynamite Kid]

Not overlooking Cotto.

What happened on Saturday doesn't indicate what Mayweather would be able to do against an opponent like Manny Pacquiao. While Juan Manuel Marquez was indeed the smaller guy, Marquez's style was also tailor made for Floyd Mayweather. Very few have been able to counter punch against Mayweather, Zab Judah being one of them; dude is fast and a south paw. Marquez doesn't have that type of athletic ability. Marquez has been more about timing.

Pacquiao has the speed to match Mayweather; is a south paw, so the shoulder roll won't be as effective. Pacquiao has the foot speed/ foot work/ angles to make Mayweather VERY uncomfortable. Also a new found more developed right hook. Jesus Chavez/ JLC were able to land right hands over the top against Mayweather and they fight out of an orthodox stance, Marquez did as well but rarely. Much easier for a south paw to land right hooks against Mayweather, especially one as athletic as Pacquiao. Also, Manny Pacquiao's 5'6 height would be VERY beneficial, in that, like Jesus Chavez, who is short; Pacquiao will be able to land over the top with the right hook.

We have to look at Zab Judah's success against Mayweather. Zab Judah stopped throwing the jab because he was being countered with left hooks over the top.





So Mayweather managed to take away one of his weapons and proceeded to break him down to the body. I don't see Mayweather having that sort of success against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is a VERY explosive combination puncher . He will jab to the body though, which is MUCH less of a risk. I don't think Zab Judah wasn't conditioned enough to go the 12 rounds with Mayweather, I believe he was. It had more to do with Mayweather's precise/ constant body attack.

Some may disagree but to me, Pacquiao's hand speed is slightly slower then Judah's. But Pacquiao's foot speed compensates for that. I've already mentioned that Pacquiao is more consistent so, who has Mayweather faced that has the stamina/ activity that Manny Pacquiao brings? No one. Would Mayweather be able to attack the body (As he did against Judah) without getting hit upstairs against an explosive combination puncher in Pacquiao? I have a hard time seeing that. What Mayweather vs. Marquez proved is that, Marquez isn't no where nearly as good of a weight jumper as Pacquiao. A good debate is, comparing Pacquiao's power/ hand speed with Judah's.

Next I'll make a thread as to why Pacquiao is gonna beat Cotto.

I agree with what your saying.


Pacquiao's rhythm and athletic ability are not the easiest things in the World to get to grips with, if they were he would not have got by MAB, Morales, Marquez etc etc. You dont get by those types of fighters with the kinda skill he had!! unless you are very! athletic and your unorthodoxy works in your favour. Its okay thinking Floyd will get Pacs rhythm down and start peppering him with shots, but if Pac was that easy to time how come Morales, MAB, Marquez could not get out of the straight left hand of this one "dimensional Southpaw" because he nailed all of them with it.


Sosa also gave Mayweather trouble with his unorthodoxy.

Its like this when you are trained to calculate everything that a conventional fighter throws at you it can throw you off when you have someone like Sosa, Maussa, in there with you because they dont throw punches the way you expect them to throw, only Manny is 3 times the fighter those guys are so i dont see why so many people think Mayweather would get his timing down and pick him apart.

Pacquiao is also left handed, Mayweather has been hit more against Southpaw's than anyone.

If Manny beats Cotto and looks good i dont see why it should not happen, i dont care what anyone says when all said and done Pac is more of an athlete than Marquez, not past his best and has good hand speed, left handed stance on his side, even if Floyd would won it would be fairly competitive imo.

You know your a buddy of mine Dominicano Soy! but i do have to worry about your agenda, why are you so pro this fight should happen? are you doing it because deep down you know Mayweather will win or because you honestly believe Pac has a real chance?

[The_Demon]

Think B-Hop vs Calzaghe, a little example. Someone is landing very accurate shots, the other isn't as accurate but is MORE active.

floyd would be more active against manny than bhop was against calzaghe imo,but who knows
i think manny would have some success early as he is a fast started and floyd isnt,maybe even ahead of the scorecards after 6
the 2nd half of the fight would be different though,with mayweather now timing manny better landing some beautiful right hands not letting manny get into his rhythm/getting him off balance
mayweather could even stop him imo,but will most likely win a close but clear UD