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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Didnt you learn anything from the Canelo/ Plant fallout where you blamed PBC and was dead wrong?

    I get you dont like PBC and will go with whatever is said against them.

    Crawford has yet again taken a deal for more money than he generates for a weak opponent rather than do what he could to make the fight he says he wants.

    He talks about a hedge fund but isnt exactly clear about who they are.

    He asks for transparency then admits he never asked the same for Bob, even with the ppvs.

    Just be careful forcing everything into the anti PBC narrative.
    Wow, the amount of bits of vital information you have chosen to leave out is astounding, actually no its not its what you usually do..

    Bud said he didn't ask Arum for transparency because he always got a guarantee, not to mention he was always over paid.

    He talks about informing the other side about the hedge fund but they had no interest, not interest in where it was coming from.
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Didnt you learn anything from the Canelo/ Plant fallout where you blamed PBC and was dead wrong?

      I get you dont like PBC and will go with whatever is said against them.

      Crawford has yet again taken a deal for more money than he generates for a weak opponent rather than do what he could to make the fight he says he wants.

      He talks about a hedge fund but isnt exactly clear about who they are.

      He asks for transparency then admits he never asked the same for Bob, even with the ppvs.

      Just be careful forcing everything into the anti PBC narrative.
      Name me a ppv fight where the fighters got no guarantee.

      Haymon gave canelo 40 million guaranteed and plant 10 million guaranteed.

      But bud and errol gotta wait on ppv sales? Smh
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        #23
        Originally posted by Hustle View Post

        Name me a ppv fight where the fighters got no guarantee.

        Haymon gave canelo 40 million guaranteed and plant 10 million guaranteed.

        But bud and errol gotta wait on ppv sales? Smh
        Crawford would be a fool to rely on the numbers PBC comes up with to determine his pay after the fight.

        im sure they did not expect him to
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Crawford has yet again taken a deal for more money than he generates for a weak opponent rather than do what he could to make the fight he says he wants.
          Getting an opponent on extreme short notice for $10 million was a power move and from what he's said, he's done far more than what he could to make the Spence fight. Maybe put out that blunt for a damn minute and get up to speed.

          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          He talks about a hedge fund but isnt exactly clear about who they are.
          So? Keeping two company names out of the interview is a rather professional thing to do.

          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          He asks for transparency then admits he never asked the same for Bob, even with the ppvs.
          ​Because he was signed with him and Top Rank is a reputable company that's put on the many of the best fights in boxing history lmao, additionally had a garuantee which Al wouldn't do. Are you smoking oolies now?

          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Just be careful forcing everything into the anti PBC narrative.
          That buzzword is like 3 years old now, dosn't make you sound smart. Quite the opposite.
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            #25
            Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post

            Wow, the amount of bits of vital information you have chosen to leave out is astounding, actually no its not its what you usually do..

            Bud said he didn't ask Arum for transparency because he always got a guarantee, not to mention he was always over paid.

            He talks about informing the other side about the hedge fund but they had no interest, not interest in where it was coming from.
            Dude youre good at funneling everything into your anti pbc narrative. Youre not so good at looking at things from all sides or admitting you might be jumping the gun.

            Which hedge fund? Maybe he named it and i missed it. why do you believe Crawford found one based solely on his word if he hasnt given concrete info?

            Crawford is fighting yet another no name by his choosing. Yet somehow you blame Haymon.

            At some point you need to hold Crawford accountable for his actions.

            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-03-2022, 11:22 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hustle View Post

              Name me a ppv fight where the fighters got no guarantee.

              Haymon gave canelo 40 million guaranteed and plant 10 million guaranteed.

              But bud and errol gotta wait on ppv sales? Smh
              Fair point. I think we can agree with Canelo there is a better sense of what sales will be. In this fight, I dont think we have the same sense.

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                #27
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Fair point. I think we can agree with Canelo there is a better sense of what sales will be. In this fight, I dont think we have the same sense.
                But no guaranteed money? That's crazy

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                  But no guaranteed money? That's crazy
                  Not really. Yall say "no guaranteed money" like PBC doesn't have to pay Bud a dime.

                  Errol's guarantee for Ugas was $1.5 million. He always makes his money on the back end. You think Bud would accept any fight with a $1.5 million guarantee? Be honest.

                  Crawford has never done business this way. Bob always did the reverse, high guarantee less PPV %.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                    Not really. Yall say "no guaranteed money" like PBC doesn't have to pay Bud a dime.

                    Errol's guarantee for Ugas was $1.5 million. He always makes his money on the back end. You think Bud would accept any fight with a $1.5 million guarantee? Be honest.

                    Crawford has never done business this way. Bob always did the reverse, high guarantee less PPV %.
                    Floyd was getting 8 million guaranteed in 2005/2006 when he was doing 300k ppv buys against the gatti, Zab, baldomir.

                    1.5 million guarantee for a unification ppv is disgusting
                    Last edited by Hustle; 11-03-2022, 09:48 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                      Floyd was getting 8 million guaranteed in 2005/2006 when he was doing 300k ppv buys against the gatti, Zab, baldomir.

                      1.5 million guarantee for a unification ppv is disgusting
                      But to be fair we are in very shaky times, I don't know if you are aware that the world is on the verge of the worst recession since the great depression, the money markets are falling like rain, there is a knock to that in every market across the globe.

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