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    #51
    Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

    Is Bivol the biggest star in the sport?
    answering a question with a question is the original deflection tactic that predates the internet

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      #52
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

      answering a question with a question is the original deflection tactic that predates the internet
      I'll take that as a no.
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        #53
        Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

        Can win doesn't mean he will win. Of course Hearn is gonna say if he wins. He can't see into the future.
        How is this of course? Did you read my statement in full? Eddie has been telling us he WILL win or he’s constantly said WHEN Joshua beats usyk.

        so of course he can say what he thinks. He can throw all his eggs in a basket and say what he has said for months.

        But he was comfortable then, this fight was in doubt and even so was weeks away. Now it’s the last few days, he’s quick to change his words and his confidence is dropping quick.

        I hope this has helped you come to terms with the facts. If not, just put you’re head back into the sand pit.

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          #54
          Originally posted by hennanra1000 View Post

          Its a fair assessment - he has consistently said its not an easy fight for AJ.

          You are just a hater and Tyson Fury troll - go back to crying in your previous posts on how AJ hurt the fweelings of those ‘skint Uni students’ as you put it (maybe you are one of them).

          I like to keep it real - I support AJ all the way but see him as of NOW as behind Usyk, Fury, Wilder and Joyce based on his vulnerabilities outweighing his strengths until he proves otherwise (and i hope he does).

          But plonkers like you will NEVER give him any credit or his abilities because you got an agenda that is clear as day. I read between the lines and a lot of people hate on AJ because of some comments on *** he made or cultural differences. Same people who have no issues if drunk white yobs are harassing somebody who cant stand up for themselves.

          Some real boxing fans can give credit to fighters they may even dislike on a personal level and assess the nuances of strengths and weaknesses. I am not ****** enough to make absolute certainty predictions as its boxing and at this level anything can happen.

          At least Man up and own up to why you hate on him (same thing i said to your buddy). Frankly i think AJ most likely loses but hope AJ wins and is able to show haters his real ability but even if he did it would make no difference as you would come up with some other angle.
          I don’t hate on anyone. I’ve often agreed with Eddie and Joshua about multiple things.

          he hasn’t “constantly” said it’s not easy. That’s where you are wrong. I aren’t gonna waste my time on someone that doesn’t even know the facts. Go away, do some research and then come back and apologise for bothering me when you don’t even have a clue about the facts of the matter.

          make sure you tune in tonight and bring ya tissues. Don’t be Jerrrkingg off to Joshua again either, they’re for you’re tears when usyk wins.

          its 2022, nobody has “HATERS”. You ******** are something else. The second somebody doesn’t think like you or believe the BS you believe, you instantly resort to name calling and accusing every Tom, dixk and Harry of being haters or whatever word is trending on TikTok

          get out ya emotions mate. I almost cried for you reading this ffs. You should spend the next 7 hours researching and going through my post history. I can’t stop laughing. You are ridiculous aren’t you. What a sad little C u n t.
          Last edited by RoadMan94; 08-20-2022, 08:13 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by RoadMan94 View Post

            I don’t hate on anyone. I’ve often agreed with Eddie and Joshua about multiple things.

            he hasn’t “constantly” said it’s not easy. That’s where you are wrong. I aren’t gonna waste my time on someone that doesn’t even know the facts. Go away, do some research and then come back and apologise for bothering me when you don’t even have a clue about the facts of the matter.

            make sure you tune in tonight and bring ya tissues. Don’t be Jerrrkingg off to Joshua again either, they’re for you’re tears when usyk wins.

            its 2022, nobody has “HATERS”. You ******** are something else. The second somebody doesn’t think like you or believe the BS you believe, you instantly resort to name calling and accusing every Tom, dixk and Harry of being haters or whatever word is trending on TikTok

            get out ya emotions mate. I almost cried for you reading this ffs. You should spend the next 7 hours researching and going through my post history. I can’t stop laughing. You are ridiculous aren’t you. What a sad little C u n t.
            I won’t be crying as i am a fan of the sport and not blindly pushing a narrative. As i said i believe Usyk is going to be x2 what he was on first fight not least because he is now fighting for Ukraine. He will be willing to die in that ring. Even if that was not the case i would struggle to see how AJ outhussles Usyk with such a short time to change his style.

            My issue with hacks like you are you make things binary like Joshua being a bodybuilder and having zero ability just because your ****** to the rubbish Fury spouts despite wins over highly skilled fighters. Every win you come out w angle like being too old or just a fat slob etc. Joshuas resume is better than most including Fury debatably. I am annoyed w Joshua fighting 1 or 2 times a year and he deserves to be slated for that.

            But do you ever stop being a fan boy and slate your favorite fighter for drugs, saying he was gonna give money to charity, going life and death with Wallin or getting tested by Cunningham? Messing around on Joshua negotiations, retiring before he has fought fighters who can test him? Never. Same as Wilder fan boys.

            Joshua has serious flaws - he has Khan like tendency when he gets buzzed. He is my favourite fighter but i can speak facts unlike you who simply parrots Fury.

            FYI as of today Fury is no.1 by a country mile but has an asterisk to his name until he tests himself incl against Joshua and Usyk (both) and ideally Joyce - we all know the triangle theory is flawed.
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              #56
              Originally posted by hennanra1000 View Post

              I won’t be crying as i am a fan of the sport and not blindly pushing a narrative. As i said i believe Usyk is going to be x2 what he was on first fight not least because he is now fighting for Ukraine. He will be willing to die in that ring. Even if that was not the case i would struggle to see how AJ outhussles Usyk with such a short time to change his style.

              My issue with hacks like you are you make things binary like Joshua being a bodybuilder and having zero ability just because your ****** to the rubbish Fury spouts despite wins over highly skilled fighters. Every win you come out w angle like being too old or just a fat slob etc. Joshuas resume is better than most including Fury debatably. I am annoyed w Joshua fighting 1 or 2 times a year and he deserves to be slated for that.

              But do you ever stop being a fan boy and slate your favorite fighter for drugs, saying he was gonna give money to charity, going life and death with Wallin or getting tested by Cunningham? Messing around on Joshua negotiations, retiring before he has fought fighters who can test him? Never. Same as Wilder fan boys.

              Joshua has serious flaws - he has Khan like tendency when he gets buzzed. He is my favourite fighter but i can speak facts unlike you who simply parrots Fury.

              FYI as of today Fury is no.1 by a country mile but has an asterisk to his name until he tests himself incl against Joshua and Usyk (both) and ideally Joyce - we all know the triangle theory is flawed.
              Oh you most certainly will be crying. I can tell by ya posts. Ha ha ha. I’ll pray for you though, don’t worry Clive.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

                I'll take that as a no.
                I’ll take it as deflection

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

                  I’ll take it as deflection
                  Deflecting from what? Is Usyk the biggest star because he beat Joshua? No. Same way Bivol isn't the biggest star since beating Canelo.
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

                    Deflecting from what? Is Usyk the biggest star because he beat Joshua? No. Same way Bivol isn't the biggest star since beating Canelo.
                    Joshua is the biggest star in Britain. That’s it

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                      Maybe in UK, but in continental Europe only hard core boxing fans know Canelo. You must actually go to boxing gym to find the guys that know GGG, Saunders, Bivol, Plant...also.

                      But everybody knows Fury and Joshua.

                      Not maybe without a doubt.

                      I doubt Joshua is extremely popular in Latvia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Greece, Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, Czech Republic, Kosovo, Macedonia, Hungary, Belarus, Serbia, Switzerland, Belgium, Croatia, The Netherlands, Estonia, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Romania, Lithuania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, etc.

                      You can say they know Joshua in Bulgaria and Russia because of Povetkin/Pulev, but they also know Canelo because of Bivol/Golovkin. (I know Golovkin isn't from Russia but he is well known in Russia speaks the language and gets support from Russians.

                      So when you take out all those where is Joshua more known? The UK? Obviously, but aside from that where?

                      Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

                      Like I said, most likely pretty much everywhere outside of the Americas. The hispanic fanbase element that heavily factors into a boxers popularity in the US doesnt really apply in other places. AJ is a HW, looks the part, gets a ton of marketing deals, has been fighting in Asia and his fights are on at a more agreeable time than Canelos for a good chunk of the worlds population. Not saying its the be all end all but taking a look at both guys social media followers across multiple platforms plus view counts on their videos on YT, Joshua leads everywhere.
                      We are talking about boxing too, you guys add twitter followers like that means something. Joshua is more of a celebrity than Canelo he speaks better English and he has a lot of female followers due to his physique. Eddie Hearn said he would be the biggest star in boxing and that's not true one of the biggest stars but you can't hold him higher than Fury in the UK. Worldwide it's a toss up between Fury and Canelo at this point just because the Heavyweight scene is bigger worldwide. In terms of boxing though the biggest star is Canelo he has a better resume than both AJ and Fury combined.

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