Comments Thread For: Court, Public Docs Show Third Party 'Lobbyist' Receiving Payments For Rankings Connected To WBA

[PeanutRay]

I wonder how big this story will get and when they will begin to name other fighters with other managers/promoters who have done the same thing.

[DeeMoney]

All these orgs are utterly crooked and need to be investigated. As I've been saying on here for years and years, belts are for sale to the highest bidder. No real boxing fan with any dignity should respect these criminal gangs.

Belts for sale, and skewed rankings are bad; but what gets me is when they get to judges and alter the result of fights. But we’ve all seen it, an ‘A-side’ clearly loses in the ring, but the cards show otherwise.

Its illegal, its discouraging, but it aint going anywhere.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Belts for sale, and skewed rankings are bad; but what gets me is when they get to judges and alter the result of fights. But we’ve all seen it, an ‘A-side’ clearly loses in the ring, but the cards show otherwise.

Its illegal, its discouraging, but it aint going anywhere.

100%. That's why I personally don't recognize any of these crooked belts.

[DeeMoney]

I wonder how big this story will get and when they will begin to name other fighters with other managers/promoters who have done the same thing.

I doubt it gets any bigger. Promoters are in on it, thats how they keep their ‘A-sides’ on top. Media needs to stay friends with promoters, so dont want to ruffle any feathers.

Sanctioning bodies are making $ hand over fist, and they are their own regulator. As long as those that run the ******** dont get screwed over, the sanctioning bodies have no one to fear

Fans are either sycophants for the fighter benefitting, no complaining there. Or love the sport too much to change the channel and miss out.

All we can do is hold our nose, and understand the rankings may be skewed, and decisions are sometimes rigged-so be wise enough to judge them on your own

[ShoulderRoll]

I doubt it gets any bigger. Promoters are in on it, thats how they keep their ‘A-sides’ on top. Media needs to stay friends with promoters, so dont want to ruffle any feathers.

Sanctioning bodies are making $ hand over fist, and they are their own regulator. As long as those that run the ******** dont get screwed over, the sanctioning bodies have no one to fear

Fans are either sycophants for the fighter benefitting, no complaining there. Or love the sport too much to change the channel and miss out.

All we can do is hold our nose, and understand the rankings may be skewed, and decisions are sometimes rigged-so be wise enough to judge them on your own

No, that's not all we can do actually.

We can keep talking about the changes that need to happen and applying pressure from the fan side. We can also keep supporting journalists like Sean Nam so that they don't get blackballed by promoters for pursuing the truth.

Anything is better than just throwing up our hands and saying this is just the way it is and not trying to fix anything.

[BoxingIsGreat]

No, that's not all we can do actually.

We can keep talking about the changes that need to happen and applying pressure from the fan side. We can also keep supporting journalists like Sean Nam so that they don't get blackballed by promoters for pursuing the truth.

Anything is better than just throwing up our hands and saying this is just the way it is and not trying to fix anything.

Agreed. Hopefully someone obliterates these belt orgs. We need one champ per division ranked by an independent, government regulated body. ONE.

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These shadowy creeps can make or ruin a boxer\s whole life. They should be all disbanded, charged, found guilty, jailed and Federal oversight should be instituted.

Just one correction

.Cedric Kushner was NO club-promoter. Once, he wasVery big time for years, a major Promoter on par with the others.. Brought Hassim Rahman to the title, then had him stolen late the same night, in a very smelly VERY underhand way by Don King. It was after this he began to decline. Perhaps health problems brought on by the steal. He had Maskaev, Tua, Ibeabuchi, Corrie Sanders, Briggs, Chris Byrd, and more. He specialised in Heavyweights., Many were champions.

He was massively overweight himself, strictly honest, and a few years later I saw a picture of him all slimmed down, but stooped and gaunt, not looking ill. He was one of the NICE guys, and hated, crooked boxing shenanigans. Died young at about mid 60s.

[tkoboxingscene]

That's why the belts don't mean ****, accept that you have good "lobbyist"

[paulf]

Haymon should just go ahead on and roll out those PBC Championship titles like he originally planned to, and lets all stop pretending there is such a thing as a "world champion"

Let there be a Matchroom champion, ESPN champion, PBC champion, etc. As annoying as it would be, it would be a million times less corrupt.

[War Room]

All these orgs are utterly crooked and need to be investigated. As I've been saying on here for years and years, belts are for sale to the highest bidder. No real boxing fan with any dignity should respect these criminal gangs.

You haven't been saying it for years and years you liar. You been saying it since Ward said it a few months ago you parakeet.

Hopefully someone obliterates these belt orgs. We need one champ per division ranked by an independent, government regulated body. ONE.

Then the small guys witht he small belts don't get a minimum payday you idiot. YDKSAB, keep it moving!