whats great about sugar ray robinson>?

[Pinoy_Texan]

Take a moment to read this arcticle.

Good article. Lots of facts about SRR that I didn't know.

Thanks for the link.

[AintGottaClue]

ya but who has he beaten at welter weight besides lamotta that u know hell anyone can beat 91 bums look what that valuev guy is doing

[cple]

What do...

Sammy Angott
Fritzie Zivic
Jake LaMotta
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Bobo Olson
Randy Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

...all have in common? They are all members of the boxing hall of fame and at one point lost to Sugar Ray Robinson. Not to mention tough and very good contenders such as Charlie Fusari and Tommy Bell. He was a 5 time middleweight champion of the world. And he beat his best opposition when he was past his prime and one weight class above his best. Ray began his career as a lightweight (was probably the best in that division at the time) and fought up to lt. heavyweight.

But Robinson's greatness can't be quantified by his resume. You have to see him in action. When you do, you'll come to one conclusion: he's as close to a perfect fighter as there ever will be. There wasn't one thing he couldn't do in the ring. He had it all: blinding speed, one-punch power, heart, chin, stamina, incredible boxing ability, and one helluva killer instinct. And next to Joe Louis, he was probably the greatest combination puncher to ever live.

What's great about Ray Robinson? The question should be what isn't great about him.

[Italian250]

What do...

Sammy Angott
Fritzie Zivic
Jake LaMotta
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Bobo Olson
Randy Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

...all have in common? They are all members of the boxing hall of fame and at one point lost to Sugar Ray Robinson. Not to mention tough and very good contenders such as Charlie Fusari and Tommy Bell. He was a 5 time middleweight champion of the world. And he beat his best opposition when he was past his prime and one weight class above his best. Ray began his career as a lightweight (was probably the best in that division at the time) and fought up to lt. heavyweight.

But Robinson's greatness can't be quantified by his resume. You have to see him in action. When you do, you'll come to one conclusion: he's as close to a perfect fighter as there ever will be. There wasn't one thing he couldn't do in the ring. He had it all: blinding speed, one-punch power, heart, chin, stamina, incredible boxing ability, and one helluva killer instinct. And next to Joe Louis, he was probably the greatest combination puncher to ever live.

What's great about Ray Robinson? The question should be what isn't great about him.

Now THIS....is a good post.

[PRboxingfan]

Reminds me of Miguel Cotto vs. "Chop Chop" Corley.

Yeah, but the smaller Robinson came back to win 5 times against an opponent he was smaller than. Chop won't do that.

ya but who has he beaten at welter weight besides lamotta that u know hell anyone can beat 91 bums look what that valuev guy is doing

Can someone get banned for ****** posts? I nominate this thread! Also, while he was a welterweight in weight, he fought middleweights. He loss to a 160 pound LaMotta while only weighing 145 pounds himself. He next three meetings were the same weight difference and he still beat Jake from Pillar to Post.

Please watch a documentary on Robinson (at the very least) and then post your comments. I'm sure you will change your opinion.

[DCReprezenta]

Man oh man, there may have never been a more coordinated fighter than the great Sugar Ray Robinson...I lie to you not, I once seen the guy on film throw a body combination to a stalking opponent while simultaneously backpeddling, BEAUTY AT ITS BEST!, Another interesting thing about the comparison of Pound 4 Pound and Sugar Ray Robinson is that the title "Pound 4 Pound" was invented for Sugar Ray Robinson being so that back then the heavyweight champion was the "best" or "greatest"....Speed/Accuracy/Coordination/Power/Heart are the dynamics of a legendary fighter, guess what....that equaled Sugar Ray Robinson.

[Tha Greatest]

i have the Robinson-LaMotta VI fight on dvd
this was when robinson was older to

but he would throw his shots SO fast that i would see 2 punches
then i play it in slow motion and see it was 4 punches
p4p best ever
he's the definition of boxing

[BrooklynBomber]

Look, robinson was boxing's Prophet. He is as important figure to boxing as Jesus to Christianity. So just try to get your hands on some of his fights and you will understand. There is nobody who was as good in boxing as him.

[Tha Greatest]

Look, robinson was boxing's Prophet. He is as important figure to boxing as Jesus to Christianity. So just try to get your hands on some of his fights and you will understand. There is nobody who was as good in boxing as him.

exactly, he should be like a god to ANY boxing fan

[Ascended]

Look up him vs sammy angott george cliff tony freddie valentine andy nonnels and tony ancona Dykes,same obsolete tech and flaws as the older one that fought gene/jake/joey and others

Ray and this era look to be very overextending a lot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements. They don't fight from range much,they leave themselves open a lot of times, and a lot of times they will just throw to the body and not protect themselves. The Carlos era were able to protect the body with 1 hand while punching to the body. along with all the other advances in movement, along with being way smoother in movements the ray era They use mostly counters when up close. The lateral movement is very basic. They don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly. They have to stop then punch most of the time. Their feet are mostly tiptoeing.