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    Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
    floyd mayweather jr. is on roids as well.

    there's rumors about it floating around.

    i started it.
    Yup, I think Floyd is on steroids. Also, a friend of mine thinks he might be on roids. We now have copious information and swirling speculation.

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      Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
      Then that crackpipe has a lot of mileage on it. The rumours and spec have been going on for awhile, and are pretty widespread.

      Ask iceman.



      for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

      it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

      i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them

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        Originally posted by DrewWoodside View Post
        What exactly is this copious data?
        Some of the data points are:

        1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
        2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
        3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
        Etc...

        less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".

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          Originally posted by Archaic View Post
          LOL, they are already building up the hype for Pac-Floyd
          If that's the ulterior motive then this makes sense
          other than that, Sr.'s allegations didn't warrant a response

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            Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
            for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

            it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

            i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them
            when floyd mayweather jr. moves up divisions it's because he's so good.

            when pacquiao moves up divisions it must be because of roids.

            get it? good.

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              Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
              when floyd mayweather jr. moves up divisions it's because he's so good.

              when pacquiao moves up divisions it must be because of roids.

              get it? good.



              i'm tellin you, he shoulda just stayed at 135 and forced everyone to come down there

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                Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                Some of the data points are:

                1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
                2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
                3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
                Etc...

                less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".
                dude , pac's had a big head since he was a kid. look up some of his fights.

                overseas culture is more permissive of steroids? true. american athletes rarely test positive for steroids.

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                  Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                  Some of the data points are:

                  1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
                  2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
                  3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
                  Etc...

                  less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".
                  i dont get this steroid use causing enlargement of the head o.0?

                  so when you take steroids, it causes your skull to enlarge? are bones affected by steroid use?

                  there's a point in time where your epiphyseal growth plates stop working, and that stops the bone from growing.

                  ive only heard of ENCEPHALOPATHY which causes the brain to enlarge....but i havent heard of patients having an enlarged head cause of steroid use.

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                    Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
                    i'm tellin you, he shoulda just stayed at 135 and forced everyone to come down there
                    pacquiao is on the same stuff all our olympic gold medalist athletes are on.

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                      Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
                      for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

                      it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

                      i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them
                      Mak,

                      No. calm down. You are acting like I said the guy does roids. I said that i have heard those rumours for awhile. Jeff M said that among the boxing community, there has been a lot of chatter.

                      This is not the only board that I frequent, and I had seen this discussion before.

                      Yeah, maybe it has been a year or so. But he wasn't really in the public consciousness before. right? But there was a Pacquiao steroids thread on nsb that is over 2 years old.

                      If a guy is hitting 33 home runs a year and he is on the juice, he can fly under the radar. as soon as he hits 60, the questions will arise. That's how it works. Success draws scrutiny.



                      You know what entertains me? That so few are saying "well, let's objectively examine the issue". Instead people fall to " he is an ugly crackhead. He looks like the Predator". That's mature.

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