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Pacquiao Denies Steroid Use, Roach Blasts Floyd
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Originally posted by Al Haymon View PostThen that crackpipe has a lot of mileage on it. The rumours and spec have been going on for awhile, and are pretty widespread.
Ask iceman.
for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?
it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?
i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them
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Originally posted by DrewWoodside View PostWhat exactly is this copious data?
1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
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less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".
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Originally posted by Makavelli View Postfor a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?
it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?
i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them
when pacquiao moves up divisions it must be because of roids.
get it? good.
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Originally posted by Al Haymon View PostSome of the data points are:
1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
Etc...
less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".
overseas culture is more permissive of steroids? true. american athletes rarely test positive for steroids.
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Originally posted by Al Haymon View PostSome of the data points are:
1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
Etc...
less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".
so when you take steroids, it causes your skull to enlarge? are bones affected by steroid use?
there's a point in time where your epiphyseal growth plates stop working, and that stops the bone from growing.
ive only heard of ENCEPHALOPATHY which causes the brain to enlarge....but i havent heard of patients having an enlarged head cause of steroid use.
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Originally posted by Makavelli View Postfor a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?
it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?
i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them
No. calm down. You are acting like I said the guy does roids. I said that i have heard those rumours for awhile. Jeff M said that among the boxing community, there has been a lot of chatter.
This is not the only board that I frequent, and I had seen this discussion before.
Yeah, maybe it has been a year or so. But he wasn't really in the public consciousness before. right? But there was a Pacquiao steroids thread on nsb that is over 2 years old.
If a guy is hitting 33 home runs a year and he is on the juice, he can fly under the radar. as soon as he hits 60, the questions will arise. That's how it works. Success draws scrutiny.
You know what entertains me? That so few are saying "well, let's objectively examine the issue". Instead people fall to " he is an ugly crackhead. He looks like the Predator". That's mature.
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