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    #71
    Originally posted by El Cabron View Post
    no, he never offically lost to any southpaw
    not officially huh?....who you think really won jcc vs pernell?.....

    and pac>>>>frankie randall(not a southpaw)...

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      #72
      Originally posted by baracuda View Post
      not officially huh?....who you think really won jcc vs pernell?.....

      and pac>>>>frankie randall(not a southpaw)...
      I think Pea really won, but I also think JMM beat Pac x2

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        #73
        Originally posted by nycbgdogg View Post
        JCC? The dude that beat up over 100 Tijuana cab drivers??? The one that got gift decision after gift decision???? lmao... Please, PAC and JCC should never even be mentioned in the same paragraph...
        i agree with this

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          #74
          Originally posted by Snuff Armstrong
          You know whats funny is, I seen people post here how Jose Luis Castillo(the one that fought Mayweather Jr. in the first fight) would have beat Pacquaio or at the very least gave him fits. And yet in the same breathe say how Chavez would have lost to Manny. This is completely mind boggling to me and a major contradiction if I ever heard of one. Castillo was a miny Chavez at his best to say the least. Julio was so much more of a dominant fighter then Castillo. that pressure and body punching was relentless and even Pacman would have eventually folded like a lawn chair.
          Yo bro, you got me curious. If you are a 4 time world champ? Give me your initials or the initials of your ring name if you have one and what division you were/are in. Are you a current or former champ? What year did you retire? If your telling the truth, I bet I can figure out who you are.

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            #75
            Chavez at both weights

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              #76
              Originally posted by Snuff Armstrong
              You know whats funny is, I seen people post here how Jose Luis Castillo(the one that fought Mayweather Jr. in the first fight) would have beat Pacquaio or at the very least gave him fits. And yet in the same breathe say how Chavez would have lost to Manny. This is completely mind boggling to me and a major contradiction if I ever heard of one. Castillo was a miny Chavez at his best to say the least. Julio was so much more of a dominant fighter then Castillo. that pressure and body punching was relentless and even Pacman would have eventually folded like a lawn chair.
              Castillo was one of Chavez's sparring partners

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                #77
                Originally posted by boojee View Post
                i agree with this
                lmao thats ridiculous!!
                name more than 2 decisions Chavez got?
                do you call Edwin Rosario a cab driver? he would've laid pac out
                **** what am i saying you barely started watching boxing after the pac vs hatton fight, you prolly have no clue who he is

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by mic573 View Post
                  Pacquiao is a great fighter but a hittable and vunerable fighter at times. I have seen Pacquiao hurt more times then I have seen Chavez hurt in his prime. Chavez had a super human chin and could walk thru anything thrown at him. Then you throw in the body attack and finally the unrelenting pressure. That pressure is what swallowed his opponents.

                  I think it would be a great fight but in the end Chavez would break Pacquiao after a war.
                  what this guy said its the truth fact is you nuthuggers can bicth all you but JCC didnt get hit as much as Pac in his prime. when you fight JCC you cant let the man tag you. this is why i will never pick Pac to beat super star JCC. Pac gets hit to much to open JCC had a iron chin to add to his skills

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Snuff Armstrong
                    You know whats funny is, I seen people post here how Jose Luis Castillo(the one that fought Mayweather Jr. in the first fight) would have beat Pacquaio or at the very least gave him fits. And yet in the same breathe say how Chavez would have lost to Manny. This is completely mind boggling to me and a major contradiction if I ever heard of one. Castillo was a miny Chavez at his best to say the least. Julio was so much more of a dominant fighter then Castillo. that pressure and body punching was relentless and even Pacman would have eventually folded like a lawn chair.
                    On 11/14, we will all find out what type of body attack PAC can handle. I am in no way saying that Cotto is on the same level of greatness JCC was.

                    But, it does appear that the 147lb Cotto is a more forceful puncher than Julio was at 135lbs - 140lbs. If PAC can weather a body assault by Cotto and be victorious. I really think he'll do well against JCC.

                    PAC just like JCC is a relentless fighter, who also forces his will on his opponents. The problem is though, JCC's engine didn't start chuggin' till the 6-7th round. PAC is like a thoroughbred out the gates from beginning to end. PAC today knows not to stand in front of his opponent which would be against Chavez.

                    I believe the PAC of today will give JCC a look that is quite unique compared to Whitaker, Camacho, Taylor and Rosario. Here's why, PAC had the blazing hand and footspeed that would be comparable to Taylor and Camacho. Is a southpaw like Whitaker and Camacho, but, Taylor, Whitaker and Camacho did not have the kind of workrate that PAC has. People do not realize how awkward it is to fight PAC. I'm tellin' y'all, PAC would be the most unorthodox fighter that JCC would face compared to the list of greats El Campeon has faced.

                    I'll make my pick as who would win this mythical matchup at the conclusion of 11/14.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
                      On 11/14, we will all find out what type of body attack PAC can handle. I am in no way saying that Cotto is on the same level of greatness JCC was.

                      But, it does appear that the 147lb Cotto is a more forceful puncher than Julio was at 135lbs - 140lbs. If PAC can weather a body assault by Cotto and be victorious. I really think he'll do well against JCC.

                      PAC just like JCC is a relentless fighter, who also forces his will on his opponents. The problem is though, JCC's engine didn't start chuggin' till the 6-7th round. PAC is like a thoroughbred out the gates from beginning to end. PAC today knows not to stand in front of his opponent which would be against Chavez.

                      I believe the PAC of today will give JCC a look that is quite unique compared to Whitaker, Camacho, Taylor and Rosario. Here's why, PAC had the blazing hand and footspeed that would be comparable to Taylor and Camacho. Is a southpaw like Whitaker and Camacho, but, Taylor, Whitaker and Camacho did not have the kind of workrate that PAC has. People do not realize how awkward it is to fight PAC. I'm tellin' y'all, PAC would be the most unorthodox fighter that JCC would face compared to the list of greats El Campeon has faced.

                      I'll make my pick as who would win this mythical matchup at the conclusion of 11/14.
                      Chavez studies his opponents for about 3 rounds then he steps it up
                      Cotto doesnt throw nearly as many body shots as Chavez, power maybe, but output no

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