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How is Pacquiao a 4 weight class lineal champ?
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Postdont be such a little woman. instead of bitching while trying to defend a fighter you like, it might be nice to actually look into it and see where it came from, which was what I was trying to figure out in the first place.
some people thought floyd was lineal champion after beating genaro.
other considered floyd lineal champion after beating chico when both were #1 and #2.
it's a matter of opinion.
pacquiao was considered by some as lineal champ for beating sasakul.
ring didn't consider him ring champ but put him #1 at 112.
what's the fucking problem?
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Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Postlineage is all different for different people.
some people thought floyd was lineal champion after beating genaro.
other considered floyd lineal champion after beating chico when both were #1 and #2.
it's a matter of opinion.
pacquiao was considered by some as lineal champ for beating sasakul.
ring didn't consider him ring champ but put him #1 at 112.
what's the fucking problem?
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Crold had an article on this.
Kelly Pavlik is the lineal middleweight Champion. so if he fights someone and got beaten that someone will become the lineal Champion because he's the man who beat the Champion.
Sasakul's Championship was won through that.
RING and Lineal Champions are 2 different things though most of the time they recognize the same fighter.
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Postthere is no problem, I wanted to find the origin of the lineal championship and I did, you can trace it back to when Miguel Canto was awarded it by RING Magazine back in the 70s. which was the whole point.
"The first Ring belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey, the second to flyweight champion Pancho Villa. The magazine stopped giving belts to world champions in the 1990s, but began again in 2002 when it launched its new championship policy intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid e first Ring belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey, the second to flyweight champion Pancho Villa. The magazine stopped giving belts to world champions in the 1990s, but began again in 2002 when it launched its new championship policy intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid criteria, can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class., can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class."Last edited by Baits; 09-09-2009, 12:35 AM.
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Postthere is no problem, I wanted to find the origin of the lineal championship and I did, you can trace it back to when Miguel Canto was awarded it by RING Magazine back in the 70s. which was the whole point.
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
anyways it took a while but finally I found you can trace it all the way back to Miguel Canto, who first became the new lineal champ after it being empty. so even though it came a long way with a lot of mess inbetween, somehow it did go in order to making Pacquiao somewhat lineal at the weight.
# Chan-Hee Park (1979-1980)
# Shoji Oguma (1980-1981)
# Antonio Avelar (1981-1982)
# Prudencio Cardona (1982)
# Freddy Castillo (1982)
# Eleoncio Mercedes(1982-1983)
# Charlie Magri (1983)
# Frank Cedeno (1983-1984)
# Koji Kobayashi (1984)
# Gabriel Bernal (1984)
# Sot Chitalada (1984-1988)
# Yong Kang Kim (1988-1989)
# Sot Chitalada (1989-1991)
# Maungchai Kittikasem (1991-1992)
# Yuri Arbachakov (1992-1997)
# Chatchai Sasakul (1997-1998)
# Manny Pacquiao (1998-1999)
# Medgoen 3K-Battery (1999-2000)
# Malcolm Tunacao (2000-2001)
# Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (2001-2008)
# Daisuke Naito (2008 to date)
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