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    #81
    Originally posted by trickshot View Post
    according to his nuthuggers, fossilite and shot Casamayor is comparable to Hopkins. and overrated Juan Diaz, a squeamish kid who was beat by Paulie (stopped by Hatton) and with NO, i repeat NO notable wins is a warrior and a carreer defining ATG win for JMM

    turdsak and Jaca are also ATG wins.
    DIAZ has a nice win over acelino freitas..

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      #82
      ATG YES...Better than Barrera and Morales in my opinion. You can honestly make a case JMM has never lost a fight. He just KO'd Casa a HOF who had never been KO'd and stopped a prime x-lightweight champ in Diaz.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
        bull****...the chinny marquez would need to drink a bucket of Ray Robinson's piss just to have a chance...prime El Terrible in a vintage, ass-kicking fashion
        Agree, Marquez is great but he ain't beating a Prime MAB or EM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
          morales never fought santa cruz , ****.

          morales lost to diaz who beat santa cruz.
          EM didn't lose to Diaz.

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            #85
            Originally posted by yeks View Post
            DIAZ has a nice win over acelino freitas..
            Frietas win was crap, Popo was DONE, he was a Quitter who came out of retirement only to QUIT again.



            sorry Popo but you did quit.

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              #86
              Originally posted by El Dominicano. View Post
              Agree, Marquez is great but he ain't beating a Prime MAB or EM.
              Marquez would beat Barerra like he did the first time if not easier, since Marquez brawled a little too much. Morales vs Marquez would have been very interesting.

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                #87
                I slightly have Barrera over JMM. Naseem, Primed Erik Morales 2x, etc.

                JMM kinda has overrated wins. Losses to Manny and Chris John shouldnt ever be counted as wins. Casamayor was past prime, I dont have to explain J Diaz. His career isnt over yet, but so far I have MAB ahead

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Chups View Post
                  The question is...will he be voted to the IBHOF??


                  He is definitely not an ATG yet.
                  its a matter of opinion, to me ATG is Top 1-100, i believe JMM deserve merit to be included their, i just could not put a number just yet, and its just me...

                  I also believe he will eventually be voted to IBHOF...

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                    #89
                    No...I'd consider Barrera or Morales as ATG's before Marquez...top 50 all time

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by trickshot View Post
                      Frietas win was crap, Popo was DONE, he was a Quitter who came out of retirement only to QUIT again.



                      sorry Popo but you did quit.
                      it was still a notable win regardless.. freitas is a name at the lower weight..
                      he is not as old and past prime as casamayor.. diaz made him quit, its not as if popo quit himself alone..

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