Can Manny Pacquiao Surpass Sugar Ray Leonard in the ATG List?

[-EX-]

he had a gift against hearns......he didnt rematch marvin..............i do give him props coming from retirement........heres my argument if he destroys Cotto, Mosley and PBF.....thats a big IF..............and PBF and Cotto continue to have good wins hes at par with SRL.......we really cant argue mythical matchup...........its too complicated

How do you get a gift when you almost knock a guy out the ring? Hearns was winning the fight got caught probably due to being tired and got stopped. The ropes were holding him up. WTF are u talking about?

And the Hagler fight is debatable...I don't know if Marvin pursued a rematch but he never wanted to fight again anyway...

[strugler]

Duran is flat out better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...


And Hearns is better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...

Duran and Hearns would go thru Pac's resume undefeated...even if you threw Floyd and Cotto in there...

yes...........but i have duran higher than srl...........ATG quality goes to SRL most definitely................but the quantity + quality of PACS opponents are HOF and borderline ATGS to legitimate ATG......imo

[baracuda]

How was Hearns a controversial win? He was beating the **** outta him in that round...

And I was speaking for right now...as of right now he hasn't fought as many diff styles as SRL...

And Hearns and Hagler are clearly better than Floyd, Cotto, Barrera and the others...

And then you throw Benitez in there...

thats according to you......even srl admitted he really lost to hearns........

[strugler]

How do you get a gift when you almost knock a guy out the ring? Hearns was winning the fight got caught probably due to being tired and got stopped. The ropes were holding him up. WTF are u talking about?

And the Hagler fight is debatable...I don't know if Marvin pursued a rematch but he never wanted to fight again anyway...

i was talking about the gift draw.......SRL v.s. Hearns 2..............Marvin did pursue leonard and retired bitterly.............. SRL wouldnt want none of Marvin again..............

[-EX-]

yes...........but i have duran higher than srl...........ATG quality goes to SRL most definitely................but the quantity + quality of PACS opponents are HOF and borderline ATGS to legitimate ATG......imo

Duran should be higher than Leonard...

Only opponent Pac beat that I'd consider an ATG is De La Hoya...

Even guys like RJJ, B-Hop, and Evander are at the tail end of ATG lists made by boxing historians...

[-EX-]

thats according to you......even srl admitted he really lost to hearns........

I'm talking about the first fight...

i was talking about the gift draw.......SRL v.s. Hearns 2..............Marvin did pursue leonard and retired bitterly.............. SRL wouldnt want none of Marvin again..............

Yea Leonard admitted Hearns won that fight...the fight was in 1989...both guys were on the decline and Leonard was well past his prime...Terry Norris beat his ass a year or two later

And even if you think he lost the fight...when they both at their best. Prime for prime in 1981 Leonard knocked him out...

[baracuda]

i would have guys like pac, jmm, mab, and em barely cracking 50

could it be because you dont really have a personal atg list and you dont know most of them anyways even if you do?.....

[strugler]

Duran should be higher than Leonard...

Only opponent Pac beat that I'd consider an ATG is De La Hoya...

Even guys like RJJ, B-Hop, and Evander are at the tail end of ATG lists made by boxing historians...

WTF......MAB,JMM, Morales,PBF?,.......................greater than delahoya.....not the resume per se but the ability to perform........JMM is debatable.................imo..............ATG is subjective...........BHOP,RJJ and Evander shouldnt be shoe in top 20 if delahoya is in the top100

[GrandMasterP]

could it be because you dont really have a personal atg list and you dont know most of them anyways even if you do?.....

haha whoa!
ive seen a lot of your replies here and im possitive your a pacquiao nuthugger so stfu
i dont have a ****en list lemme see your list
...wut kind of dumba$$ makes a list of the fighters he thinks are atg's

[JAB5239]

he had a gift against hearns...

Come on now, he stopped Tommy when he was at his absolute peak. One could say that both Marquez fights were gifts for Pac, right?

...he didnt rematch marvin..............i do give him props coming from retirement....

I doesn't take away from the fact that he beat the best middleweight in the world after a 3 year retirement. Both were pretty much part time fighters at this point, but Hagler was still regarded as the best at 160. We can't judge on what didn't happen, only on what did.

....heres my argument if he destroys Cotto, Mosley and PBF.....thats a big IF..............and PBF and Cotto continue to have good wins hes at par with SRL.......we really cant argue mythical matchup...........its too complicated

Like I said my man, I don't think its impossible for Pac to surpass Leonard, only improbable.