Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Coach Explains Why Boxer Has Surpassed Floyd Mayweather

[clmags12]

then, after that.,. he decapitated Pacquiao

I named Mayweather's 3 best wins... you mentioned Ledwaba :lol1:... it is time for you to back up your bullshlt son... name the next best wins on Pacquiao's resume... then after a couple of rounds, we can move on to the losses

the ball is in your court

you are the guy who is making wild unsubstantiated claims... back that shlt up son






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you are actually the fool that doesnt back **** up. I have yet to see your "list of multiple" fighters who crap on Mannys opponents? (i have a good feeling who you'll be bringing up anyway, did you want me to make the list for you too?)

Manny-
8 weight division champion- well documented dont need to list a bunch a ****. I am sure you'll nitpick Marg win, still 7. how many does Floyd have again?
5 lineal championships. the first to do this!

also, in the orignial 8 "glamour weight divisions". Manny is the first boxer to hold 4 of the 8. to put into perspective Henry Armstrong has 3.

The only 4 decade champion.

The oldest WW champion.

Ring fighter of the year- 06, 08, and 09.

There are probably more but dont feel like really looking.

heres another 8 respectable wins- (of course my opinion)(also in my first 3, both MAB(x2)and Morales(x3) have multiple fights with manny.

-JMM 2- no need for explanation. In truth JMM/PAC = x4. all matches were pretty badass.

-Sasakul- important Mannys first Lineal title, sasakul had hometown advantage in Thailand, Mannys only 2nd time fighting away from PI.

-Cotto- while the 45 cw is irritating you cannot deny it was a great fight for both fighters. Manny officially entering the WW div.

-Thurman- undefeated young WW.

-Hatton- KO of the year, hatton was the man @140.
-Diaz- 135 Lineal, Manny hurt that man, i felt bad.

-DLH- oscar was trying to cherry pick manny, it backfired..oscar being drained was on him, manny dispatched him accordingly.

-Bradley 2- being robbed in a fight. Manny going up against a very tough tim how many times?

I wouldve went into more detail about things but you'll just insult everyone i listed.

[aboutfkntime]

Nel o will one day be greater than floy, I predict that day is when he takes a challenge at 36 years of age and wins. Floyd don't need to rematch nelo, but can't make out it was a better win than it was , with home advantage, cw and green and no rematch. But not rematching is ok, just don't embellish win. Only when floyd fans start boasting about win do people require a rematch

FACT: he will not retire undefeated

FACT: he lost to Mayweather... who DID retire undefeated

Canelo theoretically could pass Mayweather on the TAG list, but... 1) that is a HUGE call... 2) that will not change the two facts above

seeing you bought up the subject of rematches... despite four attempts, Pacquiao could never separate himself from Marquez... and the last attempt separated Pacquiao from consciousness






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[Roadblock]

Nel o will one day be greater than floy, I predict that day is when he takes a challenge at 36 years of age and wins. Floyd don't need to rematch nelo, but can't make out it was a better win than it was , with home advantage, cw and green and no rematch. But not rematching is ok, just don't embellish win. Only when floyd fans start boasting about win do people require a rematch

Canelo might be for some people and not so for others, Canelo is a great fighter who is still building his career, probably will emerge the best of his era time will tell.

Define the criteria for greater so we have the same reference?

[aboutfkntime]

you are actually the fool that doesnt back **** up. I have yet to see your "list of multiple" fighters who crap on Mannys opponents? (i have a good feeling who you'll be bringing up anyway, did you want me to make the list for you too?)

Manny-
8 weight division champion- well documented dont need to list a bunch a ****. I am sure you'll nitpick Marg win, still 7. how many does Floyd have again?
5 lineal championships. the first to do this!

also, in the orignial 8 "glamour weight divisions". Manny is the first boxer to hold 4 of the 8. to put into perspective Henry Armstrong has 3.

The only 4 decade champion.

The oldest WW champion.

Ring fighter of the year- 06, 08, and 09.

There are probably more but dont feel like really looking.

heres another 8 respectable wins- (of course my opinion)(also in my first 3, both MAB(x2)and Morales(x3) have multiple fights with manny.

-JMM 2- no need for explanation. In truth JMM/PAC = x4. all matches were pretty badass.

-Sasakul- important Mannys first Lineal title, sasakul had hometown advantage in Thailand, Mannys only 2nd time fighting away from PI.

-Cotto- while the 45 cw is irritating you cannot deny it was a great fight for both fighters. Manny officially entering the WW div.

-Thurman- undefeated young WW.

-Hatton- KO of the year, hatton was the man @140.
-Diaz- 135 Lineal, Manny hurt that man, i felt bad.

-DLH- oscar was trying to cherry pick manny, it backfired..oscar being drained was on him, manny dispatched him accordingly.

-Bradley 2- being robbed in a fight. Manny going up against a very tough tim how many times?

I wouldve went into more detail about things but you'll just insult everyone i listed.

1) Armstrong held his three titles SIMULTANEOUSLY... something that Pacquiao never did

2) Armstrong actually fought in the original 8 "glamour weight divisions"... you moron... something that Pacquiao never did

3) Armstrong holding titles at featherweight, lightweight, and welter... simultaneously... is the equivalent of holding 6 titles simultaneously in today's boxing landscape... something that Pacquiao never did

4) if Armstrong had gotten the nod over Cerefino Garcia at 160 - and he definitely won that fight, go watch it - he would have officially won titles in 4 ORIGINAL divisions... which is the equivalent of AT LEAST 8 divisions today


you are extremely ****** for mentioning Armstrong... you should have never mentioned Ledwaba... you should have never attempted to fluff that dodgy win in the 2nd Marquez fight by saying that makes up for a scoring error in a totally different fight... and you most definitely should not have mentioned hammering hank Armstrong

Armstrong > Pacquiao AND Mayweather... NOT... EVEN... CLOSE




here is why you are just another silly pac-tard...

FACT there is only one criteria for greatness... WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how... THAT IS IT !!

there is also - unfortunately for you - a small consideration given to losses

I told you that already, more than once

the number of divisions you represented has NO bearing on greatness... that boils down to size, metabolism, the boxing landscape, and even the age you started fighting

only a wanker would consider that as ATG criteria... because everyone knows back in the day there were only 8 divisions

how dare you disrespect previous greats who fought in the original 8 divisions by suggesting that Pac is greater because there are 17 divisions today

for the last time moron, the number of divisions you represented has NO bearing on greatness... WANT PROOF???

FACT: Willie Pep is greater than Pacquiao, and he only ever fought in 1 division

FACT: so is Muhammad Ali, and he only ever fought in 1 division

your post is full of wank... pac-wank to be specific... because there is only one criteria for greatness... and when we discussed that criteria, you mentioned Ledwaba

you already lost that debate son... now we are discussing body-of-work

you are already done, because we proved that Mayweather achieved more than Pacquiao by having at least THREE higher caliber wins... but body-of-work probably makes up 20% of the total consideration so... name the three next best wins on Pacquiao's resume other than Morales, Barrera, and... that other guy LMAO

waiting...

oh... and then we will discuss their losses... won't that be fun

give me the 3 names, or STFU






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[kafkod]

1) Armstrong held his three titles SIMULTANEOUSLY... something that Pacquiao never did

2) Armstrong actually fought in the original 8 "glamour weight divisions"... you moron... something that Pacquiao never did

3) Armstrong holding titles at featherweight, lightweight, and welter... simultaneously... is the equivalent of holding 6 titles simultaneously in today's boxing landscape... something that Pacquiao never did

4) if Armstrong had gotten the nod over Cerefino Garcia at 160 - and he definitely won that fight, go watch it - he would have officially won titles in 4 ORIGINAL divisions... which is the equivalent of AT LEAST 8 divisions today


you are extremely ****** for mentioning Armstrong... you should have never mentioned Ledwaba... you should have never attempted to fluff that dodgy win in the 2nd Marquez fight by saying that makes up for a scoring error in a totally different fight... and you most definitely should not have mentioned hammering hank Armstrong

Armstrong > Pacquiao AND Mayweather... NOT... EVEN... CLOSE




here is why you are just another silly pac-tard...

FACT there is only one criteria for greatness... WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how... THAT IS IT !!

there is also - unfortunately for you - a small consideration given to losses

I told you that already, more than once

the number of divisions you represented has NO bearing on greatness... that boils down to size, metabolism, the boxing landscape, and even the age you started fighting

only a wanker would consider that as ATG criteria... because everyone knows back in the day there were only 8 divisions

how dare you disrespect previous greats who fought in the original 8 divisions by suggesting that Pac is greater because there are 17 divisions today

for the last time moron, the number of divisions you represented has NO bearing on greatness... WANT PROOF???

FACT: Willie Pep is greater than Pacquiao, and he only ever fought in 1 division

FACT: so is Muhammad Ali, and he only ever fought in 1 division

your post is full of wank... pac-wank to be specific... because there is only one criteria for greatness... and when we discussed that criteria, you mentioned Ledwaba

you already lost that debate son... now we are discussing body-of-work

you are already done, because we proved that Mayweather achieved more than Pacquiao by having at least THREE higher caliber wins... but body-of-work probably makes up 20% of the total consideration so... name the three next best wins on Pacquiao's resume other than Morales, Barrera, and... that other guy LMAO

waiting...

oh... and then we will discuss their losses... won't that be fun

give me the 3 names, or STFU






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FACT: Floyd ducked Andre Ward at 160

FACT: Floyd also ducked GGG at 154

[clmags12]

give me the 3 names, or STFU[/B]






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BLAH BLAH * a few facts* more BLAH BLAH. *more of your opinions not facts* BLAH.

Thats what I get from your post.

Like. I said the wins I listed are all respectable wins. In fact i listed 11 fighters but there are 19 fights total.

You listed Canelo, JMM, Manny and you also mentioned Chico. Thats it.

I am done now, if you go off on some opinionated rant that only makes sense in your own mind. Be my guest.

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: Floyd ducked Andre Ward at 160

FACT: Floyd also ducked GGG at 154

FACT: Bullshltkin ducked Canelo AND Cotto at 154... and yet, you think he would have agreed to fight Mayweather at 154


AFTER totally refusing to drop a single pound for the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo... Bullshltkin stated that he is ready and willing to fight at 154, but nobody will step up


you cannot make that shlt up LMAO !!

[aboutfkntime]

BLAH BLAH * a few facts* more BLAH BLAH. *more of your opinions not facts* BLAH.

Thats what I get from your post.

Like. I said the wins I listed are all respectable wins. In fact i listed 11 fighters but there are 19 fights total.

You listed Canelo, JMM, Manny and you also mentioned Chico. Thats it.

I am done now, if you go off on some opinionated rant that only makes sense in your own mind. Be my guest.

you ran your mouth, making wild unsubstantiated claims... but now, you are running for the hills


give me the 3 names, just like we did earlier... or STFU...


then we can move on and discuss their losses






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[hugh grant]

FACT: he will not retire undefeated

FACT: he lost to Mayweather... who DID retire undefeated

Canelo theoretically could pass Mayweather on the TAG list, but... 1) that is a HUGE call... 2) that will not change the two facts above

seeing you bought up the subject of rematches... despite four attempts, Pacquiao could never separate himself from Marquez... and the last attempt separated Pacquiao from consciousness






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Nel o don't need to be unfefeated. That's why Floyd needs to erased from boxing history books, no fan base talks about unbeaten records as much as floyds, hoping it means something. Boasting about a hometown, cw win with no rematch, quit while your ahead approach. Floyd fans can't help themselves.
floyds wins over nel o and Pac don't mean.much. Not whilst nel o and Pac are continuing to write story

[kafkod]

FACT: Bullshltkin ducked Canelo AND Cotto at 154... and yet, you think he would have agreed to fight Mayweather at 154


AFTER totally refusing to drop a single pound for the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo... Bullshltkin stated that he is ready and willing to fight at 154, but nobody will step up


you cannot make that shlt up LMAO !!

FACT: You made that shit up LMAO !!