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Mayweather Ranks Pacquiao At Least Top 10 ATG. Floyd still higher.

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    #71
    Originally posted by tokon View Post


    Trying to say Mayweather s win was controversial is just YOU being disingenuous. It was clear cut, unanimous points win.

    That Pacquiao fans won't accept that, or want to argue about it, doesn't change the verdict or what goes in the records.

    Get over it, move on. Nothing more to see here.
    It was a controversial win, with Iv, and bad shoulder amongst other things like it was supposed to be a trilogy fight but Floyd chose to cut Pac out of his life just like that?
    Was you this philosophical and wise towards jmm fans and Floyd fans when.they were crying about Pac s wins over jmm? You should have followed your own advice, but no you didnt. You got your rematch and the rest is history shall we say.
    They, you couldn't get over it, maybe they/you could have with your the****utic and calming words? Or has age bought you this wisdom?
    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-21-2021, 02:52 PM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      It was a controversial win, with Iv, and bad shoulder amongst other things. Was you this philosophical and wise towards jmm fans and Floyd fans when.they were crying about Pac s wins over jmm?
      They couldn't get over it, maybe they could have with your the****utic and calming words?
      Controversial? Every media outlet had Floyd winning. There's not a credible boxing site that had Pac winning the fight. Most had Floyd winning 8-10 rounds.

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        #73
        Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

        Controversial? Every media outlet had Floyd winning. There's not a credible boxing site that had Pac winning the fight. Most had Floyd winning 8-10 rounds.
        Floyd had home advantage, just give Pac the rematch

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          #74
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          Floyd had home advantage, just give Pac the rematch
          I thought that Floyd's win over 2015 pac doesn't mean much because he was past prime. So what would Floyd gain from beating 2021 pac?

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            #75
            Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

            I thought that Floyd's win over 2015 pac doesn't mean much because he was past prime. So what would Floyd gain from beating 2021 pac?
            Am I missing g something? It's high stakes at least according to mayweather and Floyd fans, the winner h2h is the best of era?
            so if the fight was the decider so to speak surely the fight would be on neutral ground? If Pac knew it was such high stakes
            he'd have fight in Philippines surely? But if course of Floyd can't rematch in philioinnes, just simply a rematch is least he could give. It's called being a man.

            But really we know really a rematch or rather a triology is to decide who really is better h2h, rather than who's best of era or how much credit Floyd would have got or not. Not sure credit is too high on Floyd s priorities, because he surely wouldn't have fought berto if he craved credit
            Last edited by hugh grant; 08-21-2021, 03:43 PM.

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              #76
              Floyd and Manny are top guys but you can't ignore the fact that the welterweight division in which they fought, won't be remembered as a great one. IMO

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                #77
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                List of fighters who are better than manny and Floyd are short

                They within the top 25
                Definitely top 25. Both within that 6-10 range for me personally.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
                  Floyd and Manny are top guys but you can't ignore the fact that the welterweight division in which they fought, won't be remembered as a great one. IMO
                  Won’t it???

                  I think they fought in a very strong era at 147.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

                    I thought that Floyd's win over 2015 pac doesn't mean much because he was past prime. So what would Floyd gain from beating 2021 pac?
                    Of course Floyd's win in 15 doesn't mean much.

                    A rematch would have given respect to Floyd, and shut up any critics. He chose not to. Wasn't his first time, the first was DLH. When Oscar wanted a rematch, Floyd retired. Floyd fans don't realize it wasn't just Manny that Floyd avoided. Doesn't help his cause of TBE. Lol

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by clmags12 View Post

                      Of course Floyd's win in 15 doesn't mean much.

                      A rematch would have given respect to Floyd, and shut up any critics. He chose not to. Wasn't his first time, the first was DLH. When Oscar wanted a rematch, Floyd retired. Floyd fans don't realize it wasn't just Manny that Floyd avoided. Doesn't help his cause of TBE. Lol
                      If Floyd's win in 15 doesn't mean much to his critics than his win over Pac in 21 would mean absolutely nothing.

                      Oscar and Manny went 0-2 against Floyd. Rematch or not, Floyd can always say he beat both them and they never beat him.

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