I like Jeff, always talks sense. Floyd Sr on the other hand I have no idea what he's saying.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostHow was Mayweather ranked when he retired? Was he ever mentioned alongside Robinson and Ali?
Now that Pacquiao continues to do record-breaking things, and is considered possibly the GOAT, the Mayweathers want to piggy back.
As Jeff said in his interview its all BS and everybody has their own opinion about the best ever nothing is official except Floyd beat Manny in the ring head to head in cruise control and schooled guys that put Manny to sleep Floyd beat everyone including the worlds best current fighter Canelo, as to who is the best fighter Floyd beats Manny every day of the weak from 130 to 154.
GOAT is a fan argument nothing more why you fools place so much weight on hypothetical BS is beyond my comprehension, it's like your fantasy world is somehow supposed to override the real world, maybe when you get older you will realize that.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View PostAll true but Mannys fans have the simple-minded syndrome, they don't see reality clearly.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostHow was Mayweather ranked when he retired? Was he ever mentioned alongside Robinson and Ali?
Now that Pacquiao continues to do record-breaking things, and is considered possibly the GOAT, the Mayweathers want to piggy back.
But what Pac has done since has made Pac just that much further ahead of floyd and there's no real comparison amongst real boxing fans.
The real telling thing is Floyd fans and Floyd himself love associating with pac as it brings Floyd up, whilst Pac fans and Pac don't like it as it brings Pac reputation down, Floyd cramps Pac s style.
Pac mixes in higher cir cles, the SR R and Armstrong's of this world, Floyd s not quite thereLast edited by hugh grant; 08-20-2021, 03:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post
I am not so sure about that because all great fights have rematches. Because of who the two of them are, a rematch was deserving. It was telling that Floyd didn't want to take his chances on another battle with Manny. He had a singular strategy to beat Manny, one of which was to hold incessantly (which is illegal by the way), and if Manny came up with a strategy to negate Floyds (which he would with Freddie), then Floyd wouldn't have any answer to that high pressure style of Pacquiao.
Boxing doesn't want rematches that were no competitive the first time, boxing also knows who was the better boxer it's only Manny fans that disagree and we all know they are still crying.
Why didn't Manny rematch Jeff Horn seeing he got the win over him, that fight was way more competitive than when Floyd beat Manny.Last edited by Roadblock; 08-20-2021, 03:29 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
I do that's why I gave him top 25 at the most.. Anything better than that is pushing it why?
He actually lost or inconclusively won to Castillo 1. to maidana 1, to Pacquiao 1.
Took IVs during a fight that alone is shady AF and should automatically give a big fat asterisk in a fight.
Sucker punched Ortiz for a win wtf?
Ducked so many prime fighters..
Do I have to say more..
Giving him top 25 at the most is already pushing.. I'm already being generous. He's more like top 40.
Sorry bud, just being real.. You're not a Pacfan. You're more of a Floyd nutthugger. You can't see through all the politics of boxing and how Floyd has been a protected specie ever since.. Never left Vegas because of that. That alone should tell you he's not a true world beater.
How can he be legit when he only fights in his hometown? That in itself is another asterisk.
Real fighters fought elsewhere. Ali, SRL, Hagler, Duran, Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson, DLH, Archie Moore, Joe lewis, Jack Demsey, Rocky Marciano, Pernell Whittaker all fought in other parts of the country and some even outside the country. That's a true fighter. Those who can go out of the comfort zone. That's man balls right there.
Anyway, no need to convince you. You're a Floyd pompom shaker. Your title gives it away.
Carry on.
Here's a list to show that Top 25 is pushing it.
I dont understand why you're so mad at Floyd and to my post to be honest. All I said is that they are both great fighters and when all the dust has settled, im sure we'll see both camps giving mad props to each other.
I dont see anything wrong with being both a Pacquiao and a Mayweather fan.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
There was no public call for a rematch, no call from media, no call from within boxing itself, they all say Floyd wins again that's why there was no rematch.
Boxing doesn't want rematches that were no competitive the first time, boxing also knows who was the better boxer it's only Manny fans that disagree and we all know they are still crying.
Why didn't Manny rematch Jeff Horn seeing he got the win over him, that fight was way more competitive than when Floyd beat Manny.
Pac doesn't need to have a rematch with horn, a guy People think Pac beat and whom Pac is much greater than. Pac don't need to worry if he don't rematch horn that horn will go down in history as greater. Horn was willing to prove first win wasn't a fluke, just like Bradley and morales were, just like Pac did with barrera. Pac was going to go for other challenges like thurman and spence tougher goes than horn. Who is Floyd going to fight instead of pac, maybe berto, tenshin and youtubers? Floyd lives by different code of honour though.
Pac v Floyd is different. They were expected to have triology. Floyd will be giving rematch to someone deemed greater so it's in Floyd's best interests. Plus with the controversies which Floyd fans try ignore. Plus as long as Floyd was content with being called a ducker constantly for many years to come dodging rematch is no issue. Pac don't need rematch with floyd, Floyd needs it moreLast edited by hugh grant; 08-20-2021, 04:50 AM.Rec28 likes this.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
This is why debating with floyd fans is hard, Floyd fans are always a little off the mark with analogies.
Pac doesn't need to have a rematch with horn, a guy People think Pac beat and whom Pac is much greater than. Pac don't need to worry if he don't rematch horn that horn will go down in history as greater. Horn was willing to prove first win wasn't a fluke, just like Bradley and morales were, just like Pac did with barrera. Pac was going to go for other challenges like thurman and spence tougher goes than horn. Who is Floyd going to fight instead of pac, maybe berto, tenshin and youtubers? Floyd lives by different code of honour though.
Pac v Floyd is different. They were expected to have triology. Floyd will be giving rematch to someone deemed greater so it's in Floyd's best interests. Plus with the controversies which Floyd fans try ignore. Plus as long as Floyd was content with being called a ducker constantly for many years to come dodging rematch is no issue. Pac don't need rematch with floyd, Floyd needs it more
Jeff Horn has a very competitive fight and Manny loses, Jeff wanted a rematch but Manny didn't, then Floyd beats Manny in cruise control and retires after beating everyone over 20 yrs but he is supposed to rematch,,,,,,, yep simple-minded Manny fans .
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