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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    in my book if you can't cut it at WW, then you probably are actually a lightweight. if you can't make lightweight, you should retire.

    hagler didn't scale down to welter after a shaky start @ 160...

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      #12
      Originally posted by djtmal View Post
      hagler didn't scale down to welter after a shaky start @ 160...
      obviously hagler made the cut. if he couldn't he should've went down to 154 lbs.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        obviously hagler made the cut. if he couldn't he should've went down to 154 lbs.
        one division ok...i'm talking about two divisions to a weight where you are fighting grossly smaller men

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          #14
          Originally posted by djtmal View Post
          one division ok...i'm talking about two divisions to a weight where you are fighting grossly smaller men
          well, the rule still applies. if hagler couldn't cut it at 154, then he need to head down to 147 lbs.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            well, the rule still applies. if hagler couldn't cut it at 154, then he need to head down to 147 lbs.
            ok scale down from 160 to 147 just to get a rep...you're not gonna get the same respect as a fighter who enters one division, stays there and fights his way to the top...

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              #16
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post
              ok scale down from 160 to 147 just to get a rep...you're not gonna get the same respect as a fighter who enters one division, stays there and fights his way to the top...
              depends. if you're too small for 160, you should've never been there in the first place.

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                #17
                lol you are obsessed with your hate!!

                Hopkins turned pro at Light Heavyweight in 1988. He was fresh out of prison and had inproper training and very poor management. After losing his first fight, he got himself a new trainer, new management and he TRAINED FOR 2 YEARS before fighting again, because clearly he wasn't ready for the pros at that time, he needed to improve his game, eating habits, etc. He became fit.

                You are an idiot and a man completely obsessed with hating on hopkins. In fact, have you ever commented on anything else? Everything you type is hopkins related.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  lol you are obsessed with your hate!!

                  Hopkins turned pro at Light Heavyweight in 1988. He was fresh out of prison and had inproper training and very poor management. After losing his first fight, he got himself a new trainer, new management and he TRAINED FOR 2 YEARS before fighting again, because clearly he wasn't ready for the pros at that time, he needed to improve his game, eating habits, etc. He became fit.

                  You are an idiot and a man completely obsessed with hating on hopkins. In fact, have you ever commented on anything else? Everything you type is hopkins related.


                  lol...president of the hopkins excuse maker fan club took the bait

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                    lol...president of the hopkins excuse maker fan club took the bait
                    aw man, i thought you had something legit to talk about, you just wanted to bate.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      depends. if you're too small for 160, you should've never been there in the first place.

                      no if you enter boxing at your most efficient weight and that is 160 and you lose early in your career, ok scaling down to 154, you should be say a little stronger than your opposition and have a slight size advantage...that imo isn't that big of a deal...but if you scale down two divisions to 147 and your a grossly big welter, feeding on smaller guys, ok you get your rep, but imo an asterisk should go by your name in comparison to your peers and atgs at those respective weights

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