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    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

    Sound either self-hating or white-hating. Only those Aztec looking Mexicans can be great. Some boxing fans only tend to root for who they look like most, physically. A very race-motivated sport. Canelo does not look like the typical Native-American looking Mexican. Looks Irish, Scottish, or something. Doesn’t even look like a “Spaniard” Mexican.

    154:
    Rhodes - #4
    Trout - #3
    Mayweather - #1
    Lara - #2

    160:
    Cotto - Ring
    GGG - #1
    GGG II - #1
    Jacobs - #2

    168:
    Smith - Ring
    Saunders - #4

    175:
    Kovalev - #2

    It doesn’t matter what country or race you are from, it is hard to hate a resume like that. I know Canelo got haters in Mexico but South and Central America got love for him. If Mexicans want to disown him, we will take him.
    Has NOTHING to do with hating cause of how he looks. My uncle, Dad's brother, is Tony the Tiger Lopez, former ibf super featherweight champ. On my mom's side, her cousin is Loretto Garza, former wba super lightweight champ. They KNOW boxing and their criticism of Saul is justified more so than most. I grew up in the gym watching them both. As for those you listed, like i said, the kid has talent, but there are more "who the fcuk is that guy" on his record as well. Theres nothing wrong with criticising a fighter. But there is when it comes to NOT criticising because fanboysim blinds you.
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      Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post

      I think compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr he's picked tougher competition but still plays the long game which hurts his legacy but not his wallet.

      It was in his best interest both legacy wise and monetary wise to fight GGG a 3rd time immediately because the 2nd fight was very competitive even though I didn't personally give him the nod, 7-5 GGG.

      But he literally declined because GGG wanted the fight outside of Vegas where Canelo has less influence. This makes me think he knows he was lucky to get the W and just ran with it.

      And then Canelo literally tore of his DAZN contract because they wanted him to fight GGG again, a fight he literally claimed was easy.

      Yet now, Canelo vs GGG could be a thing again? Even though it's ANOTHER 3 years older? People have the same expectations for a 40 year old GGG as they do for a 30 year old Canelo. It's wild!

      Boxing really bugs me because it's literally the only sport in the world where you are not required to face the best yet you can claim to be the best.
      Co-sign on everything you said!
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        Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

        You seem to have an undying hate for UE fighters. Gee, I wonder why lol
        not true....i dislike golovkin and thats it.......i have knocked others for certain things....but in general have a respect for them....i dislike golovkin...you dont see me bashing others UE fighters the way i do to him

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          So is it official that the Canelo/Plant is NOT happening?
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            Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

            Has NOTHING to do with hating cause of how he looks. My uncle, Dad's brother, is Tony the Tiger Lopez, former ibf super featherweight champ. On my mom's side, her cousin is Loretto Garza, former wba super lightweight champ. They KNOW boxing and their criticism of Saul is justified more so than most. I grew up in the gym watching them both. As for those you listed, like i said, the kid has talent, but there are more "who the fcuk is that guy" on his record as well. Theres nothing wrong with criticising a fighter. But there is when it comes to NOT criticising because fanboysim blinds you.
            Every ATG in history has more “who the fk is that guy” wins than good wins. Every ATG. So it’s pointless to mention that. 50+ pro fights, you’re likely going to have a ton of those. Fcking obviously dude.

            Julio Cesar Chavez doesn’t have 115 fights vs 115 top 10 P4P fighters. Roberto Duran did not fight 119 champions. Alexis Arguello’s 77-8 record was not versus 85 top 10 ranked fighters of the respective weight classes he fought them in. So yeah. Canelo has a bunch of “who the fck is that guy”. More than he has good names. But so does, like, every single boxer in the last 100+ years.

            Lomachenko, in my lifetime, and as long as i’ve watched boxing, is the only fighter who actually has more wins over notable opponents than he does over “who the fck is that” type of fighters. It’s that rare.

            So mentioning that Canelo has a bunch of nobodies on his resume is a weak excuse to sh.t on it. JCC’s resume is like 90% tomato cans. You can’t fight 100 times vs just killers. Your great family of boxers using that as a reason sound like a pack of hypocrites if true.
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              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

              Every ATG in history has more “who the fk is that guy” wins than good wins. Every ATG. So it’s pointless to mention that. 50+ pro fights, you’re likely going to have a ton of those. Fcking obviously dude.

              Julio Cesar Chavez doesn’t have 115 fights vs 115 top 10 P4P fighters. Roberto Duran did not fight 119 champions. Alexis Arguello’s 77-8 record was not versus 85 top 10 ranked fighters of the respective weight classes he fought them in. So yeah. Canelo has a bunch of “who the fck is that guy”. More than he has good names. But so does, like, every single boxer in the last 100+ years.

              Lomachenko, in my lifetime, and as long as i’ve watched boxing, is the only fighter who actually has more wins over notable opponents than he does over “who the fck is that” type of fighters. It’s that rare.

              So mentioning that Canelo has a bunch of nobodies on his resume is a weak excuse to sh.t on it. JCC’s resume is like 90% tomato cans. You can’t fight 100 times vs just killers. Your great family of boxers using that as a reason sound like a pack of hypocrites if true.
              My fam dont use that excuse. They have their own criticisms of him. Mine is he picks and chooses who is the easiest or what division is the easiest. He SHOULD have had a trilogy vs G 2 years ago. He should have fought Mall charlo too. 168 is weak af, EVERYBODY knows that. If he fights at 175 and beats bivol and beter, he'll def go down as one of the best of this generation. I give kudos when its due. Not because fanboysim blinds me
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                I'm not really interested. Go lock in is too old now.


                I do think he took the 1st fight though.

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                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

                  Sound either self-hating or white-hating. Only those Aztec looking Mexicans can be great. Some boxing fans only tend to root for who they look like most, physically. A very race-motivated sport. Canelo does not look like the typical Native-American looking Mexican. Looks Irish, Scottish, or something. Doesn’t even look like a “Spaniard” Mexican.

                  154:
                  Rhodes - #4
                  Trout - #3
                  Mayweather - #1
                  Lara - #2

                  160:
                  Cotto - Ring
                  GGG - #1
                  GGG II - #1
                  Jacobs - #2

                  168:
                  Smith - Ring
                  Saunders - #4

                  175:
                  Kovalev - #2

                  It doesn’t matter what country or race you are from, it is hard to hate a resume like that. I know Canelo got haters in Mexico but South and Central America got love for him. If Mexicans want to disown him, we will take him.
                  It's not about color imo, a lot of Mexicans can't stand good looking guy kicking ass. One of the reasons Oscar was hated so much, I mean Chavez is loved and he's white af too.

                  They get mad that he makes their wife/gf cream their panties.

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                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

                    Every ATG in history has more “who the fk is that guy” wins than good wins. Every ATG. So it’s pointless to mention that. 50+ pro fights, you’re likely going to have a ton of those. Fcking obviously dude.

                    Julio Cesar Chavez doesn’t have 115 fights vs 115 top 10 P4P fighters. Roberto Duran did not fight 119 champions. Alexis Arguello’s 77-8 record was not versus 85 top 10 ranked fighters of the respective weight classes he fought them in. So yeah. Canelo has a bunch of “who the fck is that guy”. More than he has good names. But so does, like, every single boxer in the last 100+ years.

                    Lomachenko, in my lifetime, and as long as i’ve watched boxing, is the only fighter who actually has more wins over notable opponents than he does over “who the fck is that” type of fighters. It’s that rare.

                    So mentioning that Canelo has a bunch of nobodies on his resume is a weak excuse to sh.t on it. JCC’s resume is like 90% tomato cans. You can’t fight 100 times vs just killers. Your great family of boxers using that as a reason sound like a pack of hypocrites if true.
                    Well said....

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                      Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

                      My fam dont use that excuse. They have their own criticisms of him. Mine is he picks and chooses who is the easiest or what division is the easiest. He SHOULD have had a trilogy vs G 2 years ago. He should have fought Mall charlo too. 168 is weak af, EVERYBODY knows that. If he fights at 175 and beats bivol and beter, he'll def go down as one of the best of this generation. I give kudos when its due. Not because fanboysim blinds me
                      - -U should seek help over that excessive blabbering. Or maybe rent a room with the Charlene sissas and Golovkin to slobber over.

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