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Originally posted by champion4everIn my very first encounter with you you seemed like a pretty cool guy. I boasted how I told everyone that the Fury/Joshua fight wasn't happening and it didn't.
Then subsequently, your response to me was something like we get it. There's no need to gloat by telling others I told you so. I agreed then apologized.
I made my prediction on the fight and why I thought how all signs are now pointing to Wilder victory and you took offense to it by being arrogant and condescending.
By questioning my values, judgement and intellect on what I saw and believed with my own eyes as evidence of a cover up of Fury's subterfuge and deception with the gloves in this Wilder/Fury series. With your black racist comment.
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Originally posted by I have no ears View Post
Champ, I made the black supremacist comment cos u have made it clear many times that it wasn't only the cheating claims wilder was dealing with, it was also white supremacists tryna take the belt off him aswell and I don't buy that for a second and I gave u reasons for it, I also believe your a good guy at heart and I can debate with u on the cheating til the cows come home but not when it turns to the whole racism aspect because Tyson is a gypsy and he actually for real faces all the same discrimination that u "think" wilder faces, he had to wait for so long for a title shot solely because he was a gypsy, and look how quick Joshua got one, I do not believe white on black racism is a big factor anymore and I never will, and by big factor I mean sure there are racists d1cks out there but such a small minority that it's never even worth bringing it up, wilder uses it as one of his many excuses because his overly inflated ego took a beating
However, I don't want you to ever think it's because of Tyson Fury's race is why I believe as I believe. It has nothing to do with race but only the visual and irrefutable evidence that I've seen with my own eyes is what convinced me that Fury is guilty of tampering with his gloves.
From the flappy ones to the deflated ones. Both were illegal, criminal and could have caused great bodily harm and permanent disfigurement. If Tyson Fury would have been Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte or Michael Hunter I would have felt just the same.
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Originally posted by I have no ears View Post
If u are not on your game on the night, anyone can get floored, it's how u respond to it that is what counts and he got up and knocked him out, it wont be the last time he gets floored either imo. Also David Price went to the Olympics over him, as at that point in time pricey was considered to be on his way to the top, he just had a suspect chin which no-one knew about at that time, so your point is ridiculous, people develop, if u watch fury's first fights he's a completely different fighter these days. He took steroids, no-one is denying that, but not many guys haven't been busted in this era tbf, and I don't think he faked depression, it happens to a lot of normal people, but whether he did or not is not a factor on whether he's a good fighter or not buddy, And so far no, he hasn't defended a belt obvs because he got a back dated ban and dropped all his belts before that and blew up in weight, but he's about to defend one now so not sure where your going with that either, all in all your post looks like a giant ****storm of jealousy
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Originally posted by thetruthteller View Post
Right. So you basically have given Fury a pass for everything he has done. So there is no point in debating with you because it's like trying to tell someone who is in a cult, that they are in a cult. So when Fury gets knocked out, whether it be by Wilder, Joshua or who ever he fights within the next couple of fights, I hope you keep that same energy you have right now. However, for some of us, we see this clearly. Just like I saw Wilder being badly exposed, I see the same thing happening to Fury. And had he fought actual contenders instead of Euro-bums like Seferi and Pianeta, then he would have already been exposed. But then again, that's exactly why he fought them instead.
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Originally posted by I have no ears View Post
Thanks for the run down bro, much appreciated. I grew up watching Lennox Lewis and he has always been the standard bearer for me just cos I wasn't around to see the others, I've watched many Ali fights though, and Frazier, foreman and holmes, but never really got to watching much Marciano but I always assumed those fighters wouldn't stand a chance against the fighters of today but if the boxing historians think different then my view is probably wrong
These old fools love to reminisce about the good old days, hence the name "Old Terry"
The world has moved on, Marciano would get schooled.
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostWell I can respect that. Our environment and experience is what help shape and form our values. So in a sense I can understand where you are coming from.
However, I don't want you to ever think it's because of Tyson Fury's race is why I believe as I believe. It has nothing to do with race but only the visual and irrefutable evidence that I've seen with my own eyes is what convinced me that Fury is guilty of tampering with his gloves.
From the flappy ones to the deflated ones. Both were illegal, criminal and could have caused great bodily harm and permanent disfigurement. If Tyson Fury would have been Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte or Michael Hunter I would have felt just the same.champion4ever likes this.
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Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
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Originally posted by I have no ears View Post
Fair call champ, you're experience was obviously different to mine and I know for a fact I'll never change your views on the cheating as your the one guy on here that is the most vocal about it, and sorry for the gay comments, I just did for a laugh cos I knew u would react badly, but f**k it made me laugh at least
I enjoyed this dialogue with you. You brought up a lot of good points which forced me to think. At the end of the day we are all boxing fans and at times we may not see things the same way.
However, it doesn't in anyway diminish our love and passion for the sport. So take it easy my good man and enjoy the rest of your day. We'll stay in touch. Peace!!!!
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