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    1b difference Vs Manny when Cotto fought Clottey

    As everyone knows, Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. Against Manny he'll weigh in 1lb less, while Manny will likely weigh in around 142 at the weigh in.

    Will alot of you still cry weight drain or an unfair fight for Cotto? Why doesnt anyone see Manny's disadvantage of fighting a much bigger fighter. Fight night, we know Cotto will weigh in around 156+, while Manny will be at 149 tops. And alot of you still want Manny to move up to 147 at the weigh in. I dont understand it, why would Cotto be the victim at 145.

    Everyone seems to have forgotten that Cotto is the bigger fighter and Manny is disadvantaged stepping in against someone alot bigger. The weigh drained myth is over exaggerated, especially over 1-2lbs.


    To make things fair, Manny would feel comfortable with a 147 weigh in at fight night. Cotto would probably get killed if he weighted in at 147 right before he stepped in the ring, but 147 is the welterweight limit. would a 147 fight night weigh in be fair?
    Last edited by shogunn; 06-24-2009, 05:16 AM.

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    Originally posted by shogunn View Post
    As everyone knows, Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. Against Manny he'll weigh in 1lb less, while Manny will likely weigh in around 142 at the weigh in.

    Will alot of you still cry weight drain or an unfair fight for Cotto? Why doesnt anyone see Manny's disadvantage of fighting a much bigger fighter. Fight night, we know Cotto will weigh in around 156+, while Manny will be at 149 tops. And alot of you still want Manny to move up to 147 at the weigh in. I dont understand it, why would Cotto be the victim at 145.

    Everyone seems to have forgotten that Cotto is the bigger fighter and Manny is disadvantaged stepping in against someone alot bigger. The weigh drained myth is over exaggerated, especially over 1-2lbs.


    To make things fair, Manny would feel comfortable with a 147 weigh in at fight night. Cotto would probably get killed if he weighted in at 147 right before he stepped in the ring, but 147 is the welterweight limit right? would 147 be fair?
    Its a fair point to be honest, I couldn't be arsed to check the weights, we have to ask how much 1 extra pound in weight is going to hurt him. Then again, if 1 pound doesnt make a difference, why doesnt manny just take the fight at 147 and have done.

    Regardless of wether the fight is at 145 or 147, cotto will still rehydrate alot of pounds and will be quite a bit heavier when they get in the ring.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
      Its a fair point to be honest, I couldn't be arsed to check the weights, we have to ask how much 1 extra pound in weight is going to hurt him. Then again, if 1 pound doesnt make a difference, why doesnt manny just take the fight at 147 and have done.

      Regardless of wether the fight is at 145 or 147, cotto will still rehydrate alot of pounds and will be quite a bit heavier when they get in the ring.
      Because Manny is coming from a lower weight division and is already moving up 5lbs, while Cotto is moving down only 2. So By that logic, if Manny should just make 147, then Cotto should eaasily just move down to 140 since it isnt a big deal.

      Normally the bigger fighter shouldnt have the advantage but this is NSB. Cotto wll weigh more than Manny by at least 8lbs during fight night.

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        #4
        145 is good, it's not like Cotto is coming from 154 to 145. His last fight he weighed in at 146 so I honestly don't see any ODLH-type difference.

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          #5
          well apparently he struggled with weight for the clottey fight so who knows.when you are pushing your body that hard to make weight an extra pound is a lot thats what these people dont seem to understand
          that said im happy with it at 145 i think it gives cotto a fair chance

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            #6
            Originally posted by shogunn View Post
            Because Manny is coming from a lower weight division and is already moving up 5lbs, while Cotto is moving down only 2. So By that logic, if Manny should just make 147, then Cotto should eaasily just move down to 140 since it isnt a big deal.

            Normally the bigger fighter shouldnt have the advantage but this is NSB. Cotto wll weigh more than Manny by at least 8lbs during fight night.
            How is it the same, cotto physically cannnot make 140 pounds, manny can fight at 147 as proven already.

            Manny has already fought at 147 pounds, why can't he fight there this time?

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              #7
              Cotto had big trouble making the weight against Clottey, He was training and sparring with sweat jackets for 2 weeks to make it down

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                #8
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                How is it the same, cotto physically cannnot make 140 pounds, manny can fight at 147 as proven already.

                Manny has already fought at 147 pounds, why can't he fight there this time?
                Like I said, Cotto will weigh in at least over 8lbs against Manny during the fight. Manny fought at welter weight before weighing in at 148 during the fight. It's too obvious he's not a natural welterweight.

                Cotto coming in at 147 and weighing 160 during the fight vs Manny at 148 would be fair to you?

                What would be fair is a same night weigh in. I know Manny could do it, but Cotto couldn't. If you like 147 so much, this should be a problem.

                And again, Cotto is the bigger fighter. Everyone thinks he should have the advantage over a smaller fighter is beyond me. Maybe everyone thinks Manny is just that much better of a boxer than Cotto.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                  How is it the same, cotto physically cannnot make 140 pounds, manny can fight at 147 as proven already.

                  Manny has already fought at 147 pounds, why can't he fight there this time?
                  I have to agree with this, If Cottos belt is on the line it should be at welterweight, Also Cotto should stick to his guns and say 147 or nothing because i'm 90% sure Arum would try his absolute best to persuade Manny and they would eventually meet at 147, Also Cotto has even more options than Manny, if he doesn't fight Manny he has a BIG rematch with Margarito, rematch with Shane Mosley, finally get Mayweather(who would probably be willing now Cotto looks vulnerable), all Puerto-rican fights with Cintron or to a lesser extent Collazo, Andre Berto, Juan Urango(to get back at his unc, I bet it would sell if they market it right), Paul Williams, or if hes having soo much trouble making the weight move up and conquer the 154 division as he could move up and immediately be the best figher in the division(PW is at 160 atm), he could even fight guys like Ricky Hatton or Juan Manuel Marquez win or lose against Floyd and it would sell, They make Cotto out to be desperate but he's got just as many financial options as Pacquaio and he would make just as much against Floyd Mayweather and maybe a little bit less in the Margarito rematch who everyone would watch because of the war that was the first fight, Cotto should stick to his guns

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by shogunn View Post
                    Like I said, Cotto will weigh in at least over 8lbs against Manny during the fight. Manny fought at welter weight before weighing in at 148 during the fight. It's too obvious he's not a natural welterweight.

                    Cotto coming in at 147 and weighing 160 during the fight vs Manny at 148 would be fair to you?

                    What would be fair is a same night weigh in. I know Manny could do it, but Cotto couldn't. If you like 147 so much, this should be a problem.

                    And again, Cotto is the bigger fighter. Everyone thinks he should have the advantage over a smaller fighter is beyond me. Maybe everyone thinks Manny is just that much better of a boxer than Cotto.

                    Again, i dont agree with the way weight limits are being abused, but the fact is, 1 pound extra weight loss for cotto isnt gonna change the fact he will outweigh manny quite a bit on fight night, wether the fight is at 145 or 147, manny will come in at about 148 and cotto nearly 160.

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