1b difference Vs Manny when Cotto fought Clottey

[shogunn]

Then there would be no fight, and manny fights someone else, cotto aint coming in at 140 for anyone.

yeah, which was my original point. 145 isnt killing Cotto, and he still has the weight advantage against Manny since he will rehydrate 8+lbs over him.

[Technical_Skill]

yeah, which was my original point. 145 isnt killing Cotto, and he still has the weight advantage against Manny since he will rehydrate 8+lbs over him.

So then if 145 isnt killing cotto, why can't the fight be at 147?

We have already establish cotto will re hydrate to MW anyways whatever the weight.

[BigmoneyMikes]

145 and 147 makes a hell of allot of difference to the fighters. if 145 means cotto rehydrate to 157-158lb compared to him at 147lb re hydrating to 160+lb then is sure as hell can make alot of difference.

[Allucard]

As everyone knows, Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. Against Manny he'll weigh in 1lb less, while Manny will likely weigh in around 142 at the weigh in.

Will alot of you still cry weight drain or an unfair fight for Cotto? Why doesnt anyone see Manny's disadvantage of fighting a much bigger fighter. Fight night, we know Cotto will weigh in around 156+, while Manny will be at 149 tops. And alot of you still want Manny to move up to 147 at the weigh in. I dont understand it, why would Cotto be the victim at 145.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Cotto is the bigger fighter and Manny is disadvantaged stepping in against someone alot bigger. The weigh drained myth is over exaggerated, especially over 1-2lbs.


To make things fair, Manny would feel comfortable with a 147 weigh in at fight night. Cotto would probably get killed if he weighted in at 147 right before he stepped in the ring, but 147 is the welterweight limit. would a 147 fight night weigh in be fair?

The thing is Cotto fans DON'T want it fair. They think it's fair if Manny is at a disadvantage. They know Pacquiao can Ricky Hatton Cotto and that worries them ALLOT. So they need to make sure Cotto can fight his fight being the bigger and stronger fighter. But i think Manny will still destroy Cotto because he is a much much better fighter PERIOD.

[shogunn]

So then if 145 isnt killing cotto, why can't the fight be at 147?

We have already establish cotto will re hydrate to MW anyways.

well if 145 isnt a big deal, then why argue it? Manny is the one doing the reaching when he shouldnt have to.

Manny moving up 7lbs while Cotto stays the same at his natural weight class isnt fair. This should be obvious.

[Technical_Skill]

145 and 147 makes a hell of allot of difference to the fighters. if 145 means cotto rehydrate to 157-158lb compared to him at 147lb re hydrating to 160+lb then is sure as hell can make alot of difference.

I dont think cotto comes in over 160, we dont know for sure cos he wont let HBO broadcast his fight night weight anymore, but last time I saw it he was about 158 I think. Regardless, do you think him losing 2 pounds at the weigh in is gonna stop him being able to rehydrate up to 158 pounds?

[Technical_Skill]

well if 145 isnt a big deal, then why argue it? Manny is the one doing the reaching when he shouldnt have to.

Manny moving up 7lbs while Cotto stays the same at his natural weight class isnt fair. This should be obvious.

But manny fought at 147 against oscar who hadnt made 147 in many years.

Was that fair?

[shogunn]

But manny fought at 147 against oscar who hadnt made 147 in many years.

Was that fair?

jeez, you keep going around in circles.

Manny came from 130 that same year to 147 to fight OLDH. Oscar only had to move down 7lbs. Was that fair? who got their ass beat?

Why is everything anti Manny to you? This is another point. Everyone thinks Manny has all these advantages but he's giving into other demands.

Cotto will still have the advantage being the bigger fighter, but you cant see this. I dont know why.... Speaking of fair, again, Cotto is going to outweight Manny by maybe 10lbs. is that fair?

[BigmoneyMikes]

I dont think cotto comes in over 160, we dont know for sure cos he wont let HBO broadcast his fight night weight anymore, but last time I saw it he was about 158 I think. Regardless, do you think him losing 2 pounds at the weigh in is gonna stop him being able to rehydrate up to 158 pounds?

his come in over 160+ before cant remember which fight. whether it stops him from blowing up or not is anyone's guess but if he wants to make a healthy 145lb weight limit then he should be hovering around 153-155lb a week before the fight which means if he rehydrate in fight night it should be around 156-158 and not around 160+. this isn't a guarantee but you dont give a fighter the benefit of an extra 2lb to almost guarantee that he will blow up to 160+.

cotto isn't looking to be light on his feet against pac, his looking for power and size to push pac against the ropes and wear him down or KO him.

[Technical_Skill]

jeez, you keep going around in circles.

Manny came from 130 that same year to 147 to fight OLDH. Oscar only had to move down 7lbs. Was that fair? who got their ass beat?

Why is everything anti Manny to you? This is another point. Everyone thinks Manny has all these advantages but he's giving into other demands. Cotto will still have the advantage being the bigger fight, but you cant see this. I dont know why.......

Manny moved from 135-147, Oscar had to kill himself to make a weight he hadnt made in many years.

At the 147 pound weight limit, manny did not have to weigh in at 147, he could have weighed in at 112, it doesnt matter, thats why its called a weight limit. Therefore meaning a fighter doesnt have to kill himself to gain weight, it just means he cant weigh anymore than 147.

Notice how floyd mayweather came in at about 148-150 for a junior middleweight contest, he didnt kill himself did he?

Its not the same as a figher who comes in a 160 and over during fightnight killing himself and going on drip to make a weight he hasnt been down to in years.