WBA Declines To Sanction Klitschko-Chagaev

[Carlisle]

Klitschkos are cowards

If the Klitschkos werent such cowards and settled their differences in the ring... like other past Heavyweight greats then we would NOT have all this debate.
Their legal disputes.. their contracts with multiple rematch clauses.. their emeritus champion statuses.. they are such cowards.

That's a matter of opinion. Most boxing experts accept that when a lineal title is vacant it can be won either by the #1 and #2 contenders facing each other, or in really exceptional circumstances, by the #1 and #3 contenders facing each other. Most, but not all, agree with The Ring that this is just such an exceptional circumstance, because the #1 and #2 are brothers who, quite rightly, will never face each other. Most, but not all, agree with The Ring that Wlad is rightly rated #1 and Chagaev is rightly rated #3. So in the opinion of most, but not all, boxing experts, the winner on Saturday will be the new lineal champion. But you're entitled to disagree with them. Personally I agree with them that although it's not ideal, Wlad should be regarded as the lineal champ if he beats Chagaev.

As for Valuev, as far as I'm concerned he ducked out of the rematch with Chagaev. Apart from the fact that Chagaev had extremely low and completely non-infectious levels of hepatitis antigen left over from an illness a couple of years ago, Valuev was told the fight could go ahead if he had a vaccination, and he refused to have one. That, in my book, is a clear duck.

[The_Visitation]

As for Valuev, as far as I'm concerned he ducked out of the rematch with Chagaev. Apart from the fact that Chagaev had extremely low and completely non-infectious levels of hepatitis antigen left over from an illness a couple of years ago, Valuev was told the fight could go ahead if he had a vaccination, and he refused to have one. That, in my book, is a clear duck.

I might have thought the same until that statement from the American Association of Professional Ringside Physicians yesterday. They seem to disagree with you about the "completely non-infectious" bit with, in their opinion (and they should know) there being a (small) risk not only to the other fighter but to anyone else close enough to the action to get blood on them. The fight would not have happened had it been in the US, vaccination or not.

[tomtsatas]

Valuev, the WBA and Mendoza are a farce, a joke and the most pathetic people in boxing. Sauerland is a possible 2nd but maybe tied for 1st.

[vitali1999]

I knew the WBA wouldnt sanction this fight, that would of ment, they would have to strip Valuev, and you know Valuev would have suied. But now that Vitali is free he should stop the Russian giant for the last title.

[Rosseboi]

If the Klitschkos werent such cowards and settled their differences in the ring... like other past Heavyweight greats then we would NOT have all this debate.
Their legal disputes.. their contracts with multiple rematch clauses.. their emeritus champion statuses.. they are such cowards.

What a ****** post :S

[knn]

Man, don't talk bad about the WBA. Cotto had it around his waist for a while. Na, just joking. Yeah, the WBA is a f#cking joke. When are they gonna get rid of John Ruiz.

If you delete the WBA belts from a boxer's record you would strip Ali of most of his belts (11x or so).

[Dave Rado]

If the Klitschkos werent such cowards and settled their differences in the ring... like other past Heavyweight greats then we would NOT have all this debate.

Which other heavyweight greats fought their brother in the ring for money?

[Dave Rado]

I might have thought the same until that statement from the American Association of Professional Ringside Physicians yesterday. They seem to disagree with you about the "completely non-infectious" bit with, in their opinion (and they should know) there being a (small) risk not only to the other fighter but to anyone else close enough to the action to get blood on them. The fight would not have happened had it been in the US, vaccination or not.

They are not hepatitis experts, and several hepatitis experts (doctors who specialise in hepatitis, the whole hepatitis and nothing but the hepatitis) have said it was way below the levels that could possibly be infectious. And in any case, that's irrelevant because Valuev was told the fight could go ahead if he had a vaccination, which would have made him safe even if the the antigen had been infectious - and he refused to take the vaccination. That's what made it a clear duck.

Plus, Chagaev's blood antigen level was identical to the level he had in his previous fight, against Drumond, about which there was no controversy, so for Valuev's team to sign for the fight knowing in advance that he had remnants of antigen and what the levels were, and then pull out at the last minute, is ridiculous.

Also, Universum in which they said that the AAPRS had wrongly claimed that the hepatitis virus had been detected in Chagaev's blood stream, which was untrue: only antigen had been detected, left over from his illness of a couple of years ago. So the AAPRS statement was based on false information.

Are you aware that if you get measles, you will have measles antigen in your blood for the rest of your life? It doesn't make you infectious once the initial illness has gone. The AAPRS are being paranoid.

[Boxing Scene]

again, **** the WBA. WHO CARES.

RING>WBA

[Boxing Scene]

If the Klitschkos werent such cowards and settled their differences in the ring... like other past Heavyweight greats then we would NOT have all this debate.
Their legal disputes.. their contracts with multiple rematch clauses.. their emeritus champion statuses.. they are such cowards.

You know what a coward is? Someone who sits down at a computer and calls two 6 foot 5 plus heavyweight champions cowards.

You my friends, are the ****ing coward, and to top it off you don't know **** about boxing.