10 reasons why Floyd will beat pac decisively

[HandSpeed303]

Everyone who spends a significant time in a boxing ring knows shoulder rolling a lefty can be extremely dangerous, the angles are completely different and the straight left can be sent down the pipe much easier than from a right handed stance. Thus why floyd went to a more conventional defense against judah. Floyd just like almost every rh fighter I have come across in a gym hates fighting southpaws, he would never admit it, but they create problems, and he just like 90% of fighters looks more vulnerable against them.

In terms of judah's stamina, I don't think judah has brilliant stamina, based on the fact that his work rate is poor. He has always had great speed and a very explosive offense, and very good power, but he lacks heart at the highest level, and generally doesn't like it when people fight back. Manny is much more complete fighter and a completely different and harder proposition. It will be tough and not decisive both fighters will be hurt in the fight and it will be close and could go either way and they are both capable of tko each other but id favour floyd in a decision.

He already admitted it. That is the reason he wouldn't fight Stevie Johnston.

[Bushbaby]

that proves nothing...a come foward fighter will get the ko faster than a defense first fighter..and ever thought maybe floyd took all hatton had left from him???

No,mr. Smith,I never thought that,as a matter of fact I underestimated Pacman's offensive prowess if anything!I don't recall the last time I've seen a fighter display such a brutally effective offensive arsenal like that!!!Cotto may be the closest person,but Pacman's is simply jawdropping!!

[Pullcounter]

now, many of you on here know me as a floyd fan or "stan" for all the people who hate my posts, but 1 thing i do know better than anyone else on here, is floyd's style, hell boxers' style in general i know very well, i study fighter's training sessions, fights, from pillar to post...i watch them in slow motion, for hours because i love to break styles down...and mark my words, floyd mayweather will decisively beat manny pacquiao...here are 10 reasons why--

10)floyd has much better control of his punches

~what do i mean by this you wonder? floyd has amazing control of his punches which is why he doesn't have to have great punching power to knock his opponents out or down or effectively hurt or stun them...take corley, for instance--floyd threw many slapping punches at corley and effectively hurt him many times in the fight...like round 8, when he landed that combo in the pocket, and corley went down following that...or take gatti for instance, when floyd landed that combo in round 6, and effectively hurt gatti...his control of his punches is something he mastered long ago...manyy pacquiao has gotten better as a fighter and has gotten better at controlling his punches, but against floyd, he would have stop throwing wild punches and time his punches right to have a hint of a chance against floyd...i don't care how fast manny's punches are...thrwoing sloppy at floyd is bad news...i don't see how manny is going to beat this guy...

9)floyd is stronger than pacman
~and he damn sure is...manny hits harder than floyd to a lot of you people right? he damn sure doesn't hit harder than de la hoya, and floyd took punches from oscar very well...he was never hurt in the fight, not even once...but the strength i'm referring to is overall strength...floyd is stronger than what people give him credit for...he has the ability and has shown this in previous fights with coralles and gatti, two bigger men, that he can spin their body around and land something of his own...that takes a lot of strength...floyd has power, but his overall strength is what makes him that much harder to defeat...he bascially man-handled hatton and gatti like he wanted to, and i'm not talking just punches, i'm talking moving them around the ring before he punched...that takes strength...manny showed it against diaz, but i really haven't seen him look that strong overall...he has great power in his punches buit against floyd, i see him getting man-handled fairly easy...we'll see though...

8)floyd counters effectively off of the block...
~God knows i have put this in many of my posts in the past, but this is the best trait i feel floyd has...i go back to the fights with gatti, justin jukko, and tony pep...also gerena...floyd has the abilty not only to dodge punches and counter, but block punches and counter very effectively...i have not seen any fighter block manny's punches and immediately hit him afterwards, not even marquez...i guarantee you, floyd will...people say his shoulder roll won't be effective against manny, like hell it won't...floyd has the ability to block a punch with his shoulder and land a hook afterwards...ask those guys who i listed earlier...that is the triat people don't talk about onhere...throwback fighters like floyd patterson also did this...it is a very effective punch...floyd has snake eyes, so he can see fast punches coming, and i know manny has speed and throws in bunches, but i guarantee you, floyd will block many of those punches and counter them immediately....manny is known for taking punches by counterpunches, and floyd is the best at it...and why? just watch how he trains with the mitts...people like to criticze that but, imo, it's the best type of padwork there is to have, because he covers also boundaries...he not only blocks punches to the body, but he blocks punches and then counters with hooks...you have to watch closely, it's a great method to have...manny majority of the fighters like manny, shane, cotto, hatton, have basic padwork routines, and it has cost them victories imo, a very important trait...floyd's padwork is top notch and on it's own level...he fights off the ropes blocking and slipping punches and then countering, which is why his skill is leagues above those other fighters i mentioned...i'm telling you, manny has a lion type of style but he's fighting a kobra/rattlesnake, and floyd knows too many fundamentals and will beat this man soundly....

i'll stop there for now...i have to go back to work...but give me some feedback and arguments guys....i'll post the rest later today...

this post had promise until you called floyd a slapper.

[sunny31]

He already admitted it. That is the reason he wouldn't fight Stevie Johnston.

I never knew that thanks...well my point is further justified then

[FRANKGWJ]

now, many of you on here know me as a floyd fan or "stan" for all the people who hate my posts, but 1 thing i do know better than anyone else on here, is floyd's style, hell boxers' style in general i know very well, i study fighter's training sessions, fights, from pillar to post...i watch them in slow motion, for hours because i love to break styles down...and mark my words, floyd mayweather will decisively beat manny pacquiao...here are 10 reasons why--

10)floyd has much better control of his punches

~what do i mean by this you wonder? floyd has amazing control of his punches which is why he doesn't have to have great punching power to knock his opponents out or down or effectively hurt or stun them...take corley, for instance--floyd threw many slapping punches at corley and effectively hurt him many times in the fight...like round 8, when he landed that combo in the pocket, and corley went down following that...or take gatti for instance, when floyd landed that combo in round 6, and effectively hurt gatti...his control of his punches is something he mastered long ago...manyy pacquiao has gotten better as a fighter and has gotten better at controlling his punches, but against floyd, he would have stop throwing wild punches and time his punches right to have a hint of a chance against floyd...i don't care how fast manny's punches are...thrwoing sloppy at floyd is bad news...i don't see how manny is going to beat this guy...

9)floyd is stronger than pacman
~and he damn sure is...manny hits harder than floyd to a lot of you people right? he damn sure doesn't hit harder than de la hoya, and floyd took punches from oscar very well...he was never hurt in the fight, not even once...but the strength i'm referring to is overall strength...floyd is stronger than what people give him credit for...he has the ability and has shown this in previous fights with coralles and gatti, two bigger men, that he can spin their body around and land something of his own...that takes a lot of strength...floyd has power, but his overall strength is what makes him that much harder to defeat...he bascially man-handled hatton and gatti like he wanted to, and i'm not talking just punches, i'm talking moving them around the ring before he punched...that takes strength...manny showed it against diaz, but i really haven't seen him look that strong overall...he has great power in his punches buit against floyd, i see him getting man-handled fairly easy...we'll see though...

8)floyd counters effectively off of the block...
~God knows i have put this in many of my posts in the past, but this is the best trait i feel floyd has...i go back to the fights with gatti, justin jukko, and tony pep...also gerena...floyd has the abilty not only to dodge punches and counter, but block punches and counter very effectively...i have not seen any fighter block manny's punches and immediately hit him afterwards, not even marquez...i guarantee you, floyd will...people say his shoulder roll won't be effective against manny, like hell it won't...floyd has the ability to block a punch with his shoulder and land a hook afterwards...ask those guys who i listed earlier...that is the triat people don't talk about onhere...throwback fighters like floyd patterson also did this...it is a very effective punch...floyd has snake eyes, so he can see fast punches coming, and i know manny has speed and throws in bunches, but i guarantee you, floyd will block many of those punches and counter them immediately....manny is known for taking punches by counterpunches, and floyd is the best at it...and why? just watch how he trains with the mitts...people like to criticze that but, imo, it's the best type of padwork there is to have, because he covers also boundaries...he not only blocks punches to the body, but he blocks punches and then counters with hooks...you have to watch closely, it's a great method to have...manny majority of the fighters like manny, shane, cotto, hatton, have basic padwork routines, and it has cost them victories imo, a very important trait...floyd's padwork is top notch and on it's own level...he fights off the ropes blocking and slipping punches and then countering, which is why his skill is leagues above those other fighters i mentioned...i'm telling you, manny has a lion type of style but he's fighting a kobra/rattlesnake, and floyd knows too many fundamentals and will beat this man soundly....

i'll stop there for now...i have to go back to work...but give me some feedback and arguments guys....i'll post the rest later today...

LOL! Dude, all of that sound good and is wishful thinking, but I will give you one reason why everything you said might come back to bite you in the ass is that Pac Man is a surperior SOUTH PAW. Floyd got caught by Chop Chop and was hurt (who is a weak south paw)! Floyd had trouble in the first four rounds and was caught by Judah and was stunned a little, who has speed and decent power (which also a south paw). PAC Man is 20 times better and smarter than those two guys, and oh did I forget to mention that Manny is a South Paw. You whole post is crazy for not give Pac Man a chance by saying Floyd will beat him easy! Lamo! Oh, I forgot to tell you that Manny is a Supreme SOUTH PAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbftxrs316]

im back bitches...i read every response to me, and i must say, thank you...i read the usual candor about me calling myself a stan, which i didn't, but that's not really the point...i expected the usual ones on here to make meaningless posts responding to me(mangler 1st, how shocking), so instead of responding to those posters right away, i will continue my rant...

7)floyd's movement is methodical---now, we all know floyd moves around the ring...many call it "running" but unless you run track or cross-country, the many posters on here who call it "running" really hold no merit...when i say methodcial, i mean it's very hard to figure out...people talk about his footork, and how well he moves...i talk about not only footwork, but upperbody movement, and he has great upperbody movement, which is why i favor him to counter manny a lot even when floyd's back touches the ropes, because of well he can use them with his upperbody movement...think about when he fought n'dou, how well he avoided mainly all of n'dou's shots by using the shoulder roll, and n'dou was throwing hooks...when manny had oscar up against the ropes, he threw many hooks...he will not be able to throw hooks and think that will get to floyd, coz it won't...i also like how floyd throws punches threw combinations, hence corley and de la hoya...floyd landed a blistering right hand to corley's face and moved out of the way right aftrer he landed it, and corley missed his own shot...and floyd was on the ropes...this is something floyd just does like walking...it's that easy....i also believe floyd will fight manny on the inside and avoid his punches while countering him...what manny will have to do is move around a lot, not floyd, and manny will be in his track shoes when these 2 fight, i bet you...floyd's inside fight game is much better than manny's...

6)floyd has better body positioning and control over his body movement than manny...manny has improved his coordination in the last 3 fights...floyd has amazing balance...manny started to feint more and land punches...floyd put his skillset together at a young and has been doing this all of his life practically...manny bounces a lot, he will have to stand his ground and slow his pace down, coz floyd knows how to put himself in great position to land on moving targets and of course stationary targerts...ala gatti and judah...i don't see manny doing any of this effectively enough...trust me guys, manny will fight different when he fights floyd, will he be effective enough with a guy who has a plan a, b, and c, something d? i don't think so...we'll found out though...

5)floyd is the sharper puncher...now this goes back to how he trains...notice when you watch manny shadpwbox, his hands are moving so fast and his pace is intense and he's just this man-beast of a guy...but, i really don't see him showing any defense(he shows some, but not much). floyd, on the other hand, shadowboxes slow to get his punches looking sharp, always working on different footwork, upperbody movement, fighting off of the rope, blocking punches, and throwing different combinations standing still or moving around the ring...on this note, notice the difference in how they punch...manny throws combos a lot but his punches tend to get sloppy...i rarely have seen floyd throw a sloppy punch...he is a sharp puncher...he throws his punches properly and it can show in his fights, where he is very technical with how he throws his array of shots....he is ampedectrix...both his left and right hand are strong...he looks comfortable throwing his shots...he looks loose, and in the actual fight, nothing really changes...he still throws very sharp punches...watch how he hits the mitts, his punches are very pinpoint and beautifully thrown....manny is in a lot of trouble....floyd has different kinds of punches he throws...the slap punch, the snap punch, and the punch with some mustard on top...he throws them beautifully...manny, not so much

4)floyd is the smarter fighter...and this is no insult to manny because he has improved dearly, but floyd knows how to use that ring better than manny, that's for damn sure...he has the snake eyes, always looks comfortable even when he has some trouble, uses the ropes well, knows how to tie up his opponents to upset their punches....manny has raised up some levels, but he will look very uncomfortable against floyd...manny looked very uncomfortabel in the 2 marquez fights, later in the fight...floyd looked a bit uncomfortable fighting castillo and judah, but his poise and patience played out well for him, and he didn't let it get to him, to where he would lose his focus, manny did...

3)floyd has the better pace---both floyd and manny have outstanding stamina, but manny just goes and goes and goes...fighting floyd, you just can't go like manny does and expect not to trie out, because floyd tempers his pace and he know where to hit to slow you down...ask oscar...floyd has tremendous bodypunching ability...manny has great power but moves at this high pace and he will have to slow it down to win rounds against floyd on top of all of the other things he must do...he has to fight floyd's fight and beat him at it, coz the only style i see beating floyd is his own style...and manny don't have that style...the fight is interesting though...floyd knows how to rest sometimes and just land punches, nothing too overwheling, he paces himself very good because he so poised...manny lacks that patience with the exception of the 1st moralles fight, and maybe even the 2nd...he just tries to overwhelm you into quitting or losing, but floyd fights a steady pace and turns it up when he sees fit...

the top 2 reasons are coming shortly folks...read, read, and re-read....

[pbftxrs316]

LOL! Dude, all of that sound good and is wishful thinking, but I will give you one reason why everything you said might come back to bite you in the ass is that Pac Man is a surperior SOUTH PAW. Floyd got caught by Chop Chop and was hurt (who is a weak south paw)! Floyd had trouble in the first four rounds and was caught by Judah and was stunned a little, who has speed and decent power (which also a south paw). PAC Man is 20 times better and smarter than those two guys, and oh did I forget to mention that Manny is a South Paw. You whole post is crazy for not give Pac Man a chance by saying Floyd will beat him easy! Lamo! Oh, I forgot to tell you that Manny is a Supreme SOUTH PAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

corley didn't hurt floyd, watch the fight again...he did nothing different than what zab did in round 4...corley stunned floyd with a right hook, yes, but floyd knocked him down just several seconds later...he didn't get that defense, actually, he really didn't grab corley after the initial shot, just waited and blocked and then he fought back knocking corley down just a few seconds later...a hurt fighter to me doesn't fight back...and as far as corley hitting light and being a feathered fisted puncher, if if that is true, then defense wouldn't be needed to fight him...any puncher can get stunned with a punch they don't see...manny having supposed more power and speed over chop chop means nothing, any fighter can be knocked out or stunned, and floyd was a little stunned but fought right back...

[pbftxrs316]

this post had promise until you called floyd a slapper.

ha ha ...very funny....just watch how he throws the punches at gatti and chop...round 8 and 10 with chop, and round 1 and 6 gatti...his slapping punches are more like snapping whips, they will get your attention, and they were very effective because they are fast and snapping, and tend to land more than power punches, they set up power punches...

[-Lowkey-]

Floyd takes this fight and hopefully gets the k.o late on

[Shanks]

floyd wins this hands down. he will out smart manny and box rings around him