Floyd sells more Pay per views than Pacquiao

[Doctor_Tenma]

Funny how the biggest selling fight was also one of the most boring on that list.

Agree, not to mention Hatton vs Mayweather did 915K buys. Why would anyone buy another Mayweather fight, after DLH vs. Mayweather was so boring.

[Doctor_Tenma]

He actually doesn't sell "way more". His biggest fights have been big sellers because of the competition, namely Oscar and Ricky. Without them, he'd sell similar amounts to what Pacquiao used to sell a few years back.

Look what Mayweather did against Baldomir, a no namer
Floyd v Baldomir - 325,000 PPV buys

Pacquiao against a David Diaz, a no namer
250,000 buys

[Ravishing]

That made no sense, fact is Floyd sells way more than Pac does.

It does make sense

What do the PPV sales technically mean, that people want to see Floyd fight, right? How many people do you think watch fights and don't pay for them? You don't take into consideration with local bars, friends, etc who count for 1 person paying for a PPV, but it doesn't constitute or guarantee an accurate number overall. A local bar counts maybe for 2 purchases with about 50-60 people being in the bar (depending on size). If Pac vs Hatton pulled in 890k, do you think just 890k homes saw Pac vs Hatton? If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about the outcome of Pac vs Hatton as far as 2 1/2 weeks after the fight happened even on ESPN. Hatton vs Floyd blew in the wind as quick as Hatton got back on his plane back to England.

Point is people try to discredit anyone who's on PPV as a measuring stick to Floyd, but only Floyd's die hard fans bring up PPV buys when in actuality nobody is concerened with that being none of us see any of that revenue, so basically...if the argument is if Floyd's had bigger PPV numbers than Pac? Yea of course. But does that make him a more popular figure than Pacquiao right now? I highly doubt it.

[S A M U R A I]

Look what Mayweather did against Baldomir, a no namer
Floyd v Baldomir - 325,000 PPV buys

Pacquiao against a David Diaz, a no namer
250,000 buys

Yeah. And if we take Oscar and Rick out of the equation...

Floyd v Baldomir - 325,000 PPV buys
Floyd v Judah - 374,000 PPV buys
Floyd v Gatti - 365,000 PPV buys


Pacquiao v Morales II - 360,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Morales I - 340,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Morales III - 350,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Barrera II - 350,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Marquez II - 400,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v David Diaz - 250,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Solis- Unk but around 125,000 buys is the number


... It doesn't look anywhere near as impressive.



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[Pullcounter]

Look what Mayweather did against Baldomir, a no namer
Floyd v Baldomir - 325,000 PPV buys

Pacquiao against a David Diaz, a no namer
250,000 buys

who cares!!! 50/50 or retirement.

[Deja_Vous]

who cares!!! 50/50 or retirement.

WTF are you talking about?

[Horus]

Floyd/Marquez will sell around 400k to 600k.

but really, who gives a ****??

You would expect that an AMERICAN fighter WOULD sell more PPV's in AMERICA than a Filipino fighter who doesn't speak very good english clitoris glove, and yet, we are having this conversation? Doesn't say much about floyd, imo.

FLOYD IS A DRAW BECAUSE HE TOOK THE HARD ROAD..!

Pacquiao is a draw because of his nationality, because he is the pride of the pinnoys. Who else do the pinnoys have to support...Pacquiao has a complete Monopoly on a entire group of people, which is Asians.
What Other Asian Fighter rivals Pacquiao Stardom...
So he will always be popular because his people will support him.


The difference is Mayweather sells his skills, meaning when people pay to see mayweather fight the are paying to see the a person who everybody consider one of the best if not the best.

Mayweather doesnt have a monopoly on the American Public.
Mayweather doesnt have a built in fanbase like most latin fighters do,
Mayweather has to sell his skills to be a draw. NOT WAVE A FLAG...!


In general most latin fighters have built in fan bases so they only need to be marginally good in order for them to attract fans because latin fans support their fighters.
Example: Chris Arreolya, Miguel Cotto, Juan Diaz, Juan Manuel Lopez.

But that is not the case for fighters of different races who dont have built in fan bases.

Imagine if Paul Williams was Cuban or Rican or even more mexican, he would be the biggest sensation since the remote control.

But Paul Williams isnt latin so he doesnt have that built in fanbase..
so that means he has to earn his fanbase through his skills and some kind of gimmick to get fans of other races who usally only support their fighters to come support him. Especially since boxing isnt a mainstrem sport anymore.

Mayweather is the biggest draw since oscar retired.
The only person you can compare Mayweather too is Oscar that's it.
and Oscar is the biggest draw of all time so that tells you everything you need to know right there.

Oscar was a draw because of his personality and nationality, so that means he could win or lose and it will not effect his market value.

Mayweather had to go the hard road to become a draw.
He didnt have to luxury of built in fan bases and a monopoly on a entire group of people. Like Pacquiao and most Latin fighters have.

[Horus]

Yeah. And if we take Oscar and Rick out of the equation...

Floyd v Baldomir - 325,000 PPV buys
Floyd v Judah - 374,000 PPV buys
Floyd v Gatti - 365,000 PPV buys


Pacquiao v Morales II - 360,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Morales I - 340,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Morales III - 350,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Barrera II - 350,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Marquez II - 400,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v David Diaz - 250,000 PPV buys
Pacquiao v Solis- Unk but around 125,000 buys is the number


... It doesn't look anywhere near as impressive.

Ricky hatton is a hot sell in the UK....not in the
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Ronaldinho is probably one of the most famous soccer players of all time in Europe but in AMERICA he is a nobody...because soccer is not a mainstream sport.....

Same goes for RICKY Hatton in the UK is the most Popular Boxer alive...
But in AMERICA he is a nobody because he is not AMERICAN and boxing is not a mainstream Sport. Like Football or Baseball or Golf.


IN AMERICA ricky Hatton was NOT A HOT SELL before the FLOYD fight...
People in AMERICA paid to see FLOYD fight a foreigner when he fought against HATTON in 2007.. Just because RICKY HATTON was never truly Expose to the AMERICA people before the floyd fight.

SO you must REALIZE how amazing those Numbers are when the AMERICA people didnt even know who Ricky Hatton was and they still Brought the FLOYD fight..!!!

let me give you some context:


you probably seen this before but here is the ppv context

FUN FACTS TO CONSIDER ABOUT P.P.V's and other fighters...
compare to Floyd..

Floyd vs. Hatton = 910,000 Buys= $57 million in pay-per-view revenue.

The fight was the highest-grossing PPV fight ever that didn't feature a heavyweight or a Oscar De La Hoya.


GOOGLE ANY OF THESE FIGHTS AND ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL BE THE OFFICAL NUMBERS


Pacquaio vs. Big Names

Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

Roy Jones vs. Big Names

Roy Jones Jr vs. Felix Trinidad 500,000 PPV = $25 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. John Ruiz 602,000 PPV = $26.5 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver II 382,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver III 402,000 PPV

Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys

Bernard Hopkins vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar

Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad 475,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor II 410,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys

Shane Mosley vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys

Miguel Cotto
Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosely 340,000 buys
Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah 220,000 Buys

THE REAL POINT...

Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to any fight the 3rd Biggest Name in Boxing (Pacquaio) is fighting in and that is with Big Names



Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million

"We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.


Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
6 fights in the United States before the fight...

Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,

So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

Floyd fighting a Nobody(Baldomir) is almost the equivalent to and better than

Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV


and Floyd fighting a marginal Name Like Judah is bigger than all these fights..


Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys
Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys







And Judah is barely a marginal Name...
So Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys So you could say that was all Floyd with a Marginal name fighter is better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P,V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?





So lets put things into perspective when talking about Floyd...

[1000 Left Fist]

so?????????????? the fuuck is this sooo important to you?

[Patheticfraud?]

Floyd vs Hatton did more ppvs than Pacquiao vs Hatton
Floyd vs Oscar did more ppvs than Pacquiao vs Oscar

if Floyd vs Marquez does more ppvs than Pacquiao vs Marquez then we all know who the bigger draw is and who will have the upper hand in negotiations IF Floyd beat Marquez..who is a live underdog and can upset

That's because Hatton was undefeated and everyone new Oscar was shot. Floyd don't sell ****. Oscar made him and Hatton brought the fan base for that one. How many people bought any of Floyds other Pay per views? Nobody, Floyd needs to get his head out of his ass. Pacquio has a way bigger fan base. You can't compare him in the Philippines to Floyd here. People wouldn't even know whop Floyd was in the club if he had an ?I'm Floyd Gayweather" T-shirt on.