Mayweather’s Hit List Includes Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto

[GoldenGloveLove]

Finally you are getting it!

Floyd's legs are not shot that he cannot move. Roach is exaggerating the point that Floyd doesn't move the same as he used to.

Yes, it works both ways. Whoever wins, both sides will say this. BUT having said all that, come May, it is still important to be the one who won the 2015 fight.

Listen, the bottom line is Holyfield is shot and if you don't agree with that you're just racist. That's the point we've been discussing. Keep it on topic.

[LouIE G]

Nobody said that Floyd would get 0 credit for a win against Manny if they fought in 2015. The thing is that its not the same as if the fight would have happened in 2009/2010.

Oh, here we go. Maybe you will listen to your hero Floyd

Here is a Floyd interview after Manny fought Bradley:


"I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

"I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different. Whereas me, I'm still sharp, I'm still smart, I'm not getting fatigued, I wasn't getting fatigued from the beginning.

"Those are the things that I see. I don't know if you guys see it but that's what I see."

............and I wasn't pleased with Manny's performance.

I don't know if Alex Ariza played a major role. When I sit back and I look, I look at Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and I've noticed that ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore, there's been a total change in his power.

I didnt read this strictly on the fact that you wont give floyd credit for a pac win now!! If you were an unbias fan i would have no problem debating you, but that is not the case. You have contradicted yourself in this thread already by saying " pac of 2015 can still beat floyd today", then go on to say that "if floyd fought pac in 2015, that floyd will follow the same pattern he did with other fighters" insinuating That floyd fought those fighters past their prime! if youre not a bias poster then i dont know what is...have a nice night doe!

[ADP02]

Listen, the bottom line is Holyfield is shot and if you don't agree with that you're just racist. That's the point we've been discussing. Keep it on topic.

? What are you even talking about here? Maybe you posted this in the wrong thread?

[LouIE G]

The other poster said that it doesn't matter when you fight someone. Its the same. So I gave an example that he too should get.

If they fight, the winner will get credit but like we have been telling you for the last little while, Floyd blew it. Why? See my other post above this one on what Floyd, yes Floyd says about 2014 version of Manny.

Bullshiet! You will not give credit, as you contadicted yourself in this thread without even noticing it...floyd beats pac, i guarentee you will be the most vocal one with excuses, no doubt about it!

And Comparing a fighter who couldnt even hit a speed bag correctly and showing early signs of parkinsons through out his entire training camp is a terrible comparison to a fighter who just destroyed the lineal ww champion of the world in margacheato... the mosely-berto fallout wasnt his fault and he would have been out of the ring for a year at the time.. why would 3 months extra be that much detrimental to his already long layoff that it would have affected Him any differently? ? Because it is floyd mayweather?

Had berto beat him, would people even be talking about his long layoff?or that he was already past his prime?? Hell noooo!

[ADP02]

I didnt read this strictly on the fact that you wont give floyd credit for a pac win now!! If you were an unbias fan i would have no problem debating you, but that is not the case. You have contradicted yourself in this thread already by saying " pac of 2015 can still beat floyd today", then go on to say that "if floyd fought pac in 2015, that floyd will follow the same pattern he did with other fighters" insinuating That floyd fought those fighters past their prime! if youre not a bias poster then i dont know what is...have a nice night doe!

No, I have not contradicted myself. Floyd did fight Maidana, Castillo and Mosley for example. Before Floyd fought them, he was very confident that he would beat them BUT that does NOT mean that the pick can't go wrong.


Here is Roy Jones Jr explaining the same thing.

[LouIE G]

No, I have not contradicted myself. Floyd did fight Maidana, Castillo and Mosley for example. Before Floyd fought them, he was very confident that he would beat them BUT that does NOT mean that the pick can't go wrong.


Here is Roy Jones Jr explaining the same thing.

What do you mean "pick cant go wrong"? Now i believe castillo should have gotten the nod in the first fight, but it was a close fight and by no means can a close fight either way be a robbery. Floyd got the decision and whitewashed him in the rematch with a healthy rotator cuff, so what again is your point?

He called out mosely after he koed vargas, but shane had tooth problems. Why is this floyds fault that they didnt fight earlier then 2010?

[ADP02]

Bullshiet! You will not give credit, as you contadicted yourself in this thread without even noticing it...floyd beats pac, i guarentee you will be the most vocal one with excuses, no doubt about it!

And Comparing a fighter who couldnt even hit a speed bag correctly and showing early signs of parkinsons through out his entire training camp is a terrible comparison to a fighter who just destroyed the lineal ww champion of the world in margacheato... the mosely-berto fallout wasnt his fault and he would have been out of the ring for a year at the time.. why would 3 months extra be that much detrimental to his already long layoff that it would have affected Him any differently? ? Because it is floyd mayweather?

Had berto beat him, would people even be talking about his long layoff?or that he was already past his prime?? Hell noooo!

Man, I'm supply you Floyd fans with Floyd quotes and videos. It's not hard to understand even for a Floyd fan.


Here is Floyd's own words.
Floyd, who is younger, Floyd said that he needed a tuneup against a guy (Marquez) who just moved up from 130 to 135 but to have a fight at WW. I'm sure you agreed with your hero Floyd, right
Yet, YOU are not getting which version of Mosley Floyd faces? Mosley was older, out of prime and also inactive.
Unlike Floyd, Mosley had NO TUNEUP and had to fight a much tougher fighter in Floyd Mayweather.

Don't believe me. Floyd says all this below.

"Shane Mosley is a lot older so we are going to attack him ...that is our game plan."
"Marquez was a tuneup fight"

at about 4:00 min mark

[LouIE G]

Man, I'm supply you Floyd fans with Floyd quotes and videos. It's not hard to understand even for a Floyd fan.


Here is Floyd's own words.
Floyd, who is younger, Floyd said that he needed a tuneup against a guy (Marquez) who just moved up from 130 to 135 but to have a fight at WW. I'm sure you agreed with your hero Floyd, right
Yet, YOU are not getting which version of Mosley Floyd faces? Mosley was older, out of prime and also inactive.
Unlike Floyd, Mosley had NO TUNEUP and had to fight a much tougher fighter in Floyd Mayweather.

Don't believe me. Floyd says all this below.

"Shane Mosley is a lot older so we are going to attack him ...that is our game plan."
"Marquez was a tuneup fight"

at about 4:00 min mark

I can care less about what floyd says, he is a bull****ter but i can care less...my thing is what you said in this thread which is contradictory to what you say, that it is clear you wont give floyd credit either way if he were to beat pacquaio today...

Again floyd called out shane in 2006, shane had tooth problems and both fighters took different paths in their career... but floyd beat shane past his prime doe, he waited till he got old doe, but shane never stepped up until he entered the ring to confront floyd in 2009...when did the fight happen?? Oh thats rite in floyds next fight... cmon man stop it already.

[ADP02]

What do you mean "pick cant go wrong"? Now i believe castillo should have gotten the nod in the first fight, but it was a close fight and by no means can a close fight either way be a robbery. Floyd got the decision and whitewashed him in the rematch with a healthy rotator cuff, so what again is your point?

He called out mosely after he koed vargas, but shane had tooth problems. Why is this floyds fault that they didnt fight earlier then 2010?

What do I mean? Well, every heard of the saying "a cherry pick went wrong"?

For example, Floyd was trying to cherry pick either Khan or Maidana last year. He chose Maidana. Maidana did much better than most people thought.

If Mosley connected better in the 2nd round, he could have KOed Floyd. It was still the same OLD, out of prime, inactive Mosley.

Floyd thought that Castillo couldn't have beat him.

[ADP02]

I can care less about what floyd says, he is a bull****ter but i can care less...my thing is what you said in this thread which is contradictory to what you say, that it is clear you wont give floyd credit either way if he were to beat pacquaio today...

Again floyd called out shane in 2006, shane had tooth problems and both fighters took different paths in their career... but floyd beat shane past his prime doe, he waited till he got old doe, but shane never stepped up until he entered the ring to confront floyd in 2009...when did it happen?? Oh thats rite in floyds next fight... cmon man stop it already.

Funny how now Floyd is a BS. Then you contradict yourself and say that Floyd called out Shane. I thought you just said that he is a BS?

Floyd calls out people but when the opponent calls his bluff, Floyd backs down. Mosley didn't say NO. He said lets do it a few months later since he had already fought twice that year. Floyd said NO!!! If Floyd really wanted to fight Mosley, he would have said YES. On top of that Floyd was ready to retire. You want Mosley or no name Baldomir on your resume if you are ready to retire?

Floyd did the same with Winky. When Winky even agreed to everything and went to sign the contract, Floyd changed the demand.