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    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
    You think Arum put Pacquiao to say this, 1:45?



    I doubt it, lets be real, this was Pacquiao's doing.
    You know Doctor, I have never seen that pitiful video.

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      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Floyd and company started that out with bad intentions. They accussed Manny of PEDs then expected negotiations to go well? You really believe that? Please be objective. They knew all along how it would go. They were probably even surprised that it went as far as it did.

      BTW - Manny did not say no to extra drug testing. He accepted extra blood testing with a cutoff date and urine with no cutoff dates. It was a negotiation. Not a rule by the commissions. If it was then Manny would have complied.
      If you believe it was OK for Bob Arum and MP to scuttle a fight over drug testing and innuendo then we do not need to go any further.

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        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
        You think Arum put Pacquiao to say this, 1:45?



        I doubt it, lets be real, this was Pacquiao's doing.
        That video along with those excuses are worst than that Brian Kenny interview by a mile. If Boxing was a mainstream sport like Baseball, Manny would have been fighting in Macau along time ago.

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          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          It doesn't matter?

          Larry Holmes beat a faded Ali. It doesn't matter? Why? because they fought.


          Everything needs to be taken into consideration. So of course it does matter.
          Fighting people when they're the champions or number one contenders = when they are suffering from Parkinson's and two years inactive and go on to never win a fight again. Got it. My eyes are open now. Thank you. I feel like you're my Morpheus.

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            Originally posted by drenlou View Post
            So you will never give him credit.... its true what everyone has been saying,, floyd will beat pac and the "5 years to late, he was old" excuses will follow... might as well boycott the fight so you and the pac fans can go on with,and say floyd ducked pac for five years crap..moral victory is better then an actual victory,right?
            Originally posted by drenlou View Post
            Stay on topic, stop trying to prove a point with nonsence.. accept that he took those fights, give the man credit or dont, i can care less .. point is floyd fought and beat these guys at the time he spoke on this..
            Nobody said that Floyd would get 0 credit for a win against Manny if they fought in 2015. The thing is that its not the same as if the fight would have happened in 2009/2010.

            Oh, here we go. Maybe you will listen to your hero Floyd

            Here is a Floyd interview after Manny fought Bradley:


            "I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

            Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

            "I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different. Whereas me, I'm still sharp, I'm still smart, I'm not getting fatigued, I wasn't getting fatigued from the beginning.

            "Those are the things that I see. I don't know if you guys see it but that's what I see."

            ............and I wasn't pleased with Manny's performance.

            I don't know if Alex Ariza played a major role. When I sit back and I look, I look at Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and I've noticed that ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore, there's been a total change in his power.


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              Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View Post
              If you believe it was OK for Bob Arum and MP to scuttle a fight over drug testing and innuendo then we do not need to go any further.
              Like I said, Floyd and company knew what they were doing because they went thru it the year before and they cancelled the fight over the same reason. Don't forget, Manny actually said yes to extra testing.

              Now go into the future one year and these same people are forgetting all this and actually saying that Manny must be on PEDs then. Cool story.


              Mosley vs Judah - 2008 (Cancelled)
              More recently in 2008, according to ESPN.com, Zab Judah requested Sugar Shane Mosley to agree to blood testing before their non-title welterweight fight which had been scheduled for May 31 of that year in Las Vegas. However, the fight never happened because Golden Boy CEO, Richard Schaeffer, refused the Olympic-style drug testing requested by the Judah camp, stating, "Whatever tests they [the Nevada State Athletic Commission] want them to take, Shane will submit to that. [But] [B]We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires. The fact is, Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

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                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Nobody said that Floyd would get 0 credit for a win against Manny if they fought in 2015. The thing is that its not the same as if the fight would have happened in 2009/2010.

                Oh, here we go. Maybe you will listen to your hero Floyd

                Here is a Floyd interview after Manny fought Bradley:


                "I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

                Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

                "I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different. Whereas me, I'm still sharp, I'm still smart, I'm not getting fatigued, I wasn't getting fatigued from the beginning.

                "Those are the things that I see. I don't know if you guys see it but that's what I see."

                ............and I wasn't pleased with Manny's performance.

                I don't know if Alex Ariza played a major role. When I sit back and I look, I look at Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and I've noticed that ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore, there's been a total change in his power.


                Yeah agreed. Now that Roach has said Mayweather's legs are gone Manny having ruined his chance at him when he was only a little past his prime and out of retirement pretty quickly, as opposed to this shot version of Mayweather, it'll be a much much smaller achievement if Pac wins. Shame really. He shouldn't have ducked a faded Mayweather over those drug tests. Agreed on all points.

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                  Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                  Fighting people when they're the champions or number one contenders = when they are suffering from Parkinson's and two years inactive and go on to never win a fight again. Got it. My eyes are open now. Thank you. I feel like you're my Morpheus.
                  The other poster said that it doesn't matter when you fight someone. Its the same. So I gave an example that he too should get.

                  If they fight, the winner will get credit but like we have been telling you for the last little while, Floyd blew it. Why? See my other post above this one on what Floyd, yes Floyd says about 2014 version of Manny.

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                    Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                    Yeah agreed. Now that Roach has said Mayweather's legs are gone Manny having ruined his chance at him when he was only a little past his prime and out of retirement pretty quickly, as opposed to this shot version of Mayweather, it'll be a much much smaller achievement if Pac wins. Shame really. He shouldn't have ducked a faded Mayweather over those drug tests. Agreed on all points.
                    Finally you are getting it!

                    Floyd's legs are not shot that he cannot move. Roach is exaggerating the point that Floyd doesn't move the same as he used to.

                    Yes, it works both ways. Whoever wins, both sides will say this. BUT having said all that, come May, it is still important to be the one who won the 2015 fight.

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                      Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View Post
                      If you believe it was OK for Bob Arum and MP to scuttle a fight over drug testing and innuendo then we do not need to go any further.
                      That question can be applied to Floyd.

                      If you believe it was ok for Floyd to scuttle a fight over drug testing and innuendos then we do not need to go any further.

                      See it works both ways. but Floyd started it so he put the roadblock not Pac and arum. Pac and Arum just did not jump over it.

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