Will PBF price himself out of a PAC fight?

[deevel79]

Ridiculous common I am pacman fan but give mayweather some credit. This guy fights at 154 and 147 . Why would he be scared of pacman. A natural 140 lb. Some pacnuthugger are just as ridiculous as mayweather nuthugger

Its not about how big his opponents are. Its about the caliber of them. Pac @140-145 is a much more dangerous fight for Floyd than Oscar was at 154.

[koboy]

My question is...what happens if his plan goes to ****. Like lets see.. I know it is unlikely but what if somehow marquez beats him? or if pacman does fight cotto and cotto beats pacman would pbf fight cotto? somehow someway I just see something crazy coming up that will mess up his plans if he does have one. If pbf and arum are still fighting i dont see pbf fighting anyone from top rank.Cause I know arum would do business with him but i dont think floyd feels the same way.

Nice point and this could all happen, but as I've mentioned, he could always price himself out of any fight after he beats JMM.

[Bullet Bill]

The smartest man in boxing strikes again.

PBF took the JMM fight as a business move for 2 reasons:

1. If he beats JMM he could say that this should command him more money than PAC if they ever do fight.

2. He doesn't look like a coward if Arum says "screw you" if you don't take less than PAC.

I said this in another thread by it is my same argument

What do you mean price himself out?


The Purse will be decided by One Factor
1. P.P.V History vs. the common opponent


The numbers of

Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya (1.4 Million buys)
Mayweather vs. De la hoya (2.4 Million P.P.V Buys)


Pacquiao vs. Hatton (TBA)
Mayweather vs. Hatton ( 910,000 P.P.V Buys)
Hatton Mayweather combined
U.K: 1.4 Million
U.S: 910,000
= 2.3 Million overall



Pacquiao vs. JMM (400,000 buys P.P.V Buys)
Mayweather vs. JMM (TBA)

So far Mayweather is winning the argument on who should get the lion's share.

[MANGLER]

LMAO if Mr boat buyer demands so much Arum tells him to go screw. Maybe then he'd actually fight a ****in top WW.

[mike0925]

LMAO if Mr boat buyer demands so much Arum tells him to go screw. Maybe then he'd actually fight a ****in top WW.

Thats how I feel too. Besides Pac dont need him as much as he needs Pac.He wont be able to live with not being P4P#1 his ego is to big.

[koboy]

The Purse will be decided by One Factor
1. P.P.V History vs. the common opponent

This is only your opinion and is not a fact. There are other variables to decide the purse and the easiest one and the only one controlled by a fighter is the ability to price himself out. If Mayweather wants 100 million for the Pac fight, your argument fails, because no promoter in their right mind would agree to that kind of ridiculous request. Thus, the fight will not happen. It has happened in the past. Pac vs Ricky almost didn't happen because of their demands, so please don't tell me there is only ONE FACTOR which determines the purse.

Are you a boxing promoter? If not, then your opinion is just what it is, an opinion, not a fact.

The PPV numbers you think FLOYD commands is bloated and is due to his opponent's drawing power. ODLH and Ricky were carrying good ppv numbers prior to Floyd. Tell me what Floyd's ppv numbers were prior to him fighing ODLH and Ricky.

Manny's fan base is continually growing at a frenetic pace. Although, not American, ask most of them who they'd rather see today, Floyd or Manny and you would be in for a surprise. Floyd doesn't command ppv numbers, but he can sure price himself out of fighting Manny. See argument above.

[Bullet Bill]

The point should be will bob arum price himself out...
because numbers dont lie, and all the numbers are with mayweather.
and if he (arum) does you can bet we will never see a floyd vs. cotto fight because bob would have burned that bridge down to the ground...

Or floyd would lowball the **** out of cotto making the purse split something like 80-20. With Floyd making all the money and cotto just fighting to fight.

[koboy]

LMAO if Mr boat buyer demands so much Arum tells him to go screw. Maybe then he'd actually fight a ****in top WW.

Yeah and that's called Fight Night 3. In our dreams, man. Floyd vs Shane, why not? At least he should try and get his title back. Have some dignity or some kind of pride. Shane's got your title, go get it.

[koboy]

This is only your opinion and is not a fact. There are other variables to decide the purse and the easiest one and the only one controlled by a fighter is the ability to price himself out. If Mayweather wants 100 million for the Pac fight, your argument fails, because no promoter in their right mind would agree to that kind of ridiculous request. Thus, the fight will not happen. It has happened in the past. Pac vs Ricky almost didn't happen because of their demands, so please don't tell me there is only ONE FACTOR which determines the purse.

Are you a boxing promoter? If not, then your opinion is just what it is, an opinion, not a fact.

The PPV numbers you think FLOYD commands is bloated and is due to his opponent's drawing power. ODLH and Ricky were carrying good ppv numbers prior to Floyd. Tell me what Floyd's ppv numbers were prior to him fighing ODLH and Ricky.

Manny's fan base is continually growing at a frenetic pace. Although, not American, ask most of them who they'd rather see today, Floyd or Manny and you would be in for a surprise. Floyd doesn't command ppv numbers, but he can sure price himself out of fighting Manny. See argument above.

[B] all the numbers are with mayweather.

See post above.

[Bullet Bill]

This is only your opinion and is not a fact. There are other variables to decide the purse and the easiest one and the only one controlled by a fighter is the ability to price himself out. If Mayweather wants 100 million for the Pac fight, your argument fails, because no promoter in their right mind would agree to that kind of ridiculous request. Thus, the fight will not happen. It has happened in the past. Pac vs Ricky almost didn't happen because of their demands, so please don't tell me there is only ONE FACTOR which determines the purse.

Are you a boxing promoter? If not, then your opinion is just what it is, an opinion, not a fact.

The PPV numbers you think FLOYD commands is bloated and is due to his opponent's drawing power. ODLH and Ricky were carrying good ppv numbers prior to Floyd. Tell me what Floyd's ppv numbers were prior to him fighting ODLH and Ricky.

Manny's fan base is continually growing at a frenetic pace. Although, not American, ask most of them who they'd rather see today, Floyd or Manny and you would be in for a surprise. Floyd doesn't command ppv numbers, but he can sure price himself out of fighting Manny. See argument above.

Point 1:
Floyd was half of the reason the Oscar vs. Floyd fight did the way that it did.
Because who else did Oscar do those kind of numbers with?
Not Trinidad
Not Hopkins
Not Mosley
Not Vargas
Not Pacquiao


Point: 2
2.4 Million AMERICANS brought the DLH vs. Floyd fight in AMERICA

910,000 AMERICANS brought the Hatton vs. Floyd Fight in AMERICA..

The difference is In the DLH vs. Floyd fight 2 AMERICAN superstar fighters were fighting that night in AMERICA...

In the Ricky Hatton vs. Floyd fight 1 SUPERSTAR AMERICAN was fighting a non-American in AMERICA

This tells me that more people in AMERICA knew who DLH and Floyd were.
Than

FLOYD VS. Ricky Hatton.


Floyd was the AMERICAN draw in that fight. And Ricky was the British Draw in the fight. That fight proves that Floyd AMERICAN APPEAL WAS 910,000 homes in AMERICA...

If you say Ricky was the draw in America

Can you explain to me what the Average AMERICAN casual fan knew about Ricky Hatton before he fought Floyd???

What blockbuster fight was Hatton in AMERICA before the Floyd fight???
What Blockbuster name did Hatton fight that the Casual Fan Knew in AMERICA

But I bet you the casual AMERICAN fan knew that Mayweather was considered the best fighter in the world before the Hatton fight.

I bet you the casual AMERICAN fan knew that Mayweather was on Dancing with the stars. Which averages 20 million AMERICAN viewers a week before the Hatton fight?

I bet the Casual AMERICAN fan Knew Mayweather was a trash talker before the Hatton fight...



So if Mayweather was not the Draw for the casual AMERICAN viewers in the Hatton vs. PBF fight...

You tell me

WHAT drew the Casual AMERICAN fans to buy 910,000 P.P.V orders at 59.95 a piece???

If you say Hatton please explain....

What did Hatton do before Floyd in America that got him The CASUAL AMERICAN VIEWER attention to want to pay 59.95 to watch him fight?