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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI mean look man. Manny two greatest wins are from Guys Floyd
Mayweather Jr beat already. Regardless if he beat them in a more
devasting way bottom line is that both were after PBF. Not making
excuses because Manny Pacquiao is indeed a great fighter but I'm
sure once PBF and Manny get into the ring it will be more competitive
then people are making it out to be because no matter how much people want to hate on Floyd, you can't take his skill away from him and no
matter what people say or think come fight night with anyone PBF will
be the betting favorite in Vegas against anyone and if you don't think
so then there is no reason to debate this. It baffles me because if
Pacquiao is so much more dangerous than Floyd how come people
keep saying that Floyd is picking on light weights instead of Welters?
People talk a lot but stay exposing the truth.
wassup grustlah,
oscar & ricky are not pac's greatest win. i think the first mab fight & the second em fight & the close marquez wins are better. Statistically. Hatton is 3rd or u even probably make a case for it to be the best. Plus he fought ricky IN HIS WEIGHT class & didnt make him go up like fraud jr. did.
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Originally posted by fdotorres View Postcotto already has said that'd he'd fight the best.
he also said that he thinks floyd doesn't want any part of him
he also said that he doesn't know why floyd doesn't want a fight with him is he's so confident in himself
he also said that he's confident he can beat floyd
marg challenged floyd in person, and floyd basically said "laterz"
floyd cherry picks his opponents at the higher weight classes. i don't understand why some of you think he doesn't, and even say that people duck him. i mean, what does cotto, mosley, etc have to do? plead him for a fight? threaten him?
Or did he go to a Floyd Mayweather Jr fight and Call him out or did he
say after a fight "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr next"? The
answer is "NO" Your trying to tell me that Mayweather who was the
P4P#1 fighter and top of the division has to call Cotto out? Cotto
never really showed any interest in fighting Floyd like Margarito
and Mosley did (AFTER Floyd got famous) Now Mosley says he don't
want Floyd now because he wants to fight Pacquiao first. We all
know by now that Margarito should not get props over Floyd come on.
On top of that, when Margarito stepped to Floyd, Floyd mind was on
Oscar. Floyd told Margarito "Keep winning and we can fight down the
road and it will be greater later" and what did Margarito do? Lose to
Paul Williams and missed his first fight with Cotto. Cotto dropped the
ball from becoming the P4P#1 as well. Floyd has been retired for 2
YEARS and is still the biggest thing in boxing and Shane and Cotto
is still active? Please.
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****y is an understatement. Floyd must watch his language. You cannot gain respect from anyone if you don't respect other people. A fighter like Oscar Dela Hoya shouldn't be treated like that. I look up to him for he (DLH) accepts defeat dignifiedly when he was beaten by Pacquiao. And I think it's what this sports is all about. It's all about accepting who's better and what you can do to make yourself better. I doubt if he can turn Manny Pacquiao into b***h.
Floyd Jr. look at your father and remember what's already been said against the Team Pacquiao. See what happened and what his words did to himself. It came back to him.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostOk, Ok, Cotto did say all that granted but did he say it to Floyd's face?
Or did he go to a Floyd Mayweather Jr fight and Call him out or did he
say after a fight "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr next"? The
answer is "NO" Your trying to tell me that Mayweather who was the
P4P#1 fighter and top of the division has to call Cotto out? Cotto
never really showed any interest in fighting Floyd like Margarito
and Mosley did (AFTER Floyd got famous) Now Mosley says he don't
want Floyd now because he wants to fight Pacquiao first. We all
know by now that Margarito should not get props over Floyd come on.
On top of that, when Margarito stepped to Floyd, Floyd mind was on
Oscar. Floyd told Margarito "Keep winning and we can fight down the
road and it will be greater later" and what did Margarito do? Lose to
Paul Williams and missed his first fight with Cotto. Cotto dropped the
ball from becoming the P4P#1 as well. Floyd has been retired for 2
YEARS and is still the biggest thing in boxing and Shane and Cotto
is still active? Please.
Grus,
ive posed this question before to the blindly delusional floyd fluffers before & i got no answer. Maybe u can give me one.
Close your eyes & think about all of floyd jr's accomplishment & his roster of opponents he fought.......
Now imagine he wasnt american black but a quiet & humble indian boxer or chinese boxer.
Is he still looked upon the same way?
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Stay classy Floyd. Stay classy. But come July 18th you're gonna learn a little something about class against Dinamita.
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He already did that to Cotto, Mosley, WIlliams and Margarito.
he comes back to fight a 130 pounder who move up in weight few months ago.
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Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Postwassup grustlah,
oscar & ricky are not pac's greatest win. i think the first mab fight & the second em fight & the close marquez wins are better. Statistically. Hatton is 3rd or u even probably make a case for it to be the best. Plus he fought ricky IN HIS WEIGHT class & didnt make him go up like fraud jr. did.
Manny Pacquiao. He is indeed a great fighter. I guess I thought
Hatton would be able to learn some new tricks from Senior but
you guys were right, Hatton was the same old Hatton.
Ok, Oscar made Floyd move up and Freddie and Pac made Oscar
come down. Floyd made Hatton come up and Pac fought Hatton
at his comfortable weight. Floyd beat Oscar at his comfortable weight,
Manny didn't. Pac beat Hatton at his comfortable weight, Floyd didn't.
Their even. I mean his biggest wins in regards to fame, $ and popularity.
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Originally posted by GetSumBrah View PostGrus,
ive posed this question before to the blindly delusional floyd fluffers before & i got no answer. Maybe u can give me one.
Close your eyes & think about all of floyd jr's accomplishment & his roster of opponents he fought.......
Now imagine he wasnt american black but a quiet & humble indian boxer or chinese boxer.
Is he still looked upon the same way?
was humble in the beginning and tried to please the fans he was
criticized about every little thing and that's why he became the
bad guy and started playing the villian. I really don't want to make
it a race thing but with all of Floyd's accomplishments and greatness
it seems that people will not be satisfied until he loses, while Manny
gets praised for fighting guys Floyd already beat. People have the
reason for what they do or say but I don't think people hating Floyd
is because of his mouth because if people really looked at it from a
boxing promotional point of view they would just see a man selling
himself as a brand and the fight and would notice how much he
respects his opponents in the ring.
People say Floyd picks his fighters but Roach has publicly went on
record and said that he knew Oscar couldn't pull the trigger and
that's why he took the fight and made him come down to 147 after
all them years? & basically had Hatton's#. Now people are saying
Manny Pacquiao will kick Floyd ass and he's scared to fight Pacquiao
but once he beats him, the excuse will come out that Pacquiao was
too small for him but now it's ok to think Manny will son Floyd?
Sometimes the excuses and hate just come out so blindly.
With that said I don't care because I watch boxing for the sport.
I was giving Pacquiao $#!t in regards to Hatton fight but
once he won I manned up and gave him his props. How hard is
that to do? Clearly everyone knew Hatton wasn't a tough
opponent for Pacquiao so why give him the praise and beat down
Floyd for fighting an elite fighter coming out 2 years of retirement?
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI mean, that is an interesting question. I think even when Floyd
was humble in the beginning and tried to please the fans he was
criticized about every little thing and that's why he became the
bad guy and started playing the villian. I really don't want to make
it a race thing but with all of Floyd's accomplishments and greatness
it seems that people will not be satisfied until he loses, while Manny
gets praised for fighting guys Floyd already beat. People have the
reason for what they do or say but I don't think people hating Floyd
is because of his mouth because if people really looked at it from a
boxing promotional point of view they would just see a man selling
himself as a brand and the fight and would notice how much he
respects his opponents in the ring.
People say Floyd picks his fighters but Roach has publicly went on
record and said that he knew Oscar couldn't pull the trigger and
that's why he took the fight and made him come down to 147 after
all them years? & basically had Hatton's#. Now people are saying
Manny Pacquiao will kick Floyd ass and he's scared to fight Pacquiao
but once he beats him, the excuse will come out that Pacquiao was
too small for him but now it's ok to think Manny will son Floyd?
Sometimes the excuses and hate just come out so blindly.
With that said I don't care because I watch boxing for the sport.
I was giving Pacquiao $#!t in regards to Hatton fight but
once he won I manned up and gave him his props. How hard is
that to do? Clearly everyone knew Hatton wasn't a tough
opponent for Pacquiao so why give him the praise and beat down
Floyd for fighting an elite fighter coming out 2 years of retirement?
An elite undersize/unproven fighter at that division or catch weight who is 36 years old......just saying..........
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