Carl Froch couldn't wash Joe Calzaghes Boxers

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Someone needs to tell Froch to stop pushing his luck b4 Zaghe smacks him up and does a triple ***er with his girl and froch's.

[Kris Silver]

It's amazed me what beating a reasonably close ish to prime big name American can do for you. Everyone suddenly thinks your the best thing since sliced bread.

I'm sorry Froch is amatuerish and Taylor should have taken him out of there. Kessler absolutely whips him, and I'm livid Froch has just gotten a lucky KO, and I'm still saying lucky based on going down himself, being behind on the cards, and the last 14 seconds. He's also lucky Calzaghe isn't two years younger and motivated, plus that Dawson, Roy, Hopkins, Kessler all most likely won't fight him him for varying reasons, at least soon.

Reason being, all of them and even some others, beat him. So then, what is the point in talking about him so much? He loses within in 18 months I guarantee it.

[PittyPat]

I still can't get over seeing those uppercuts being lunged and telegraphed from across the ring. Even someone as slow as Valuev could see those coming.

In all honesty I haven't seen such ridiculous telegraphing since Douglas-Holyfield, and even that was a brainfade mistake made once - the Crotch practically relies on it! Valero too. They're my most loathed fighters right now.


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[WESS]

It's amazed me what beating a reasonably close ish to prime big name American can do for you. Everyone suddenly thinks your the best thing since sliced bread.

I'm sorry Froch is amatuerish and Taylor should have taken him out of there. Kessler absolutely whips him, and I'm livid Froch has just gotten a lucky KO, and I'm still saying lucky based on going down himself, being behind on the cards, and the last 14 seconds. He's also lucky Calzaghe isn't two years younger and motivated, plus that Dawson, Roy, Hopkins, Kessler all most likely won't fight him him for varying reasons, at least soon.

Reason being, all of them and even some others, beat him. So then, what is the point in talking about him so much? He loses within in 18 months I guarantee it.

plus that Dawson, Roy, Hopkins, Kessler all most likely won't fight him him for varying reasons, at least soon.

I actually see Roy going after him and beat the living **** out of him. Easy win/money for Roy.

Your right though JT should have won and Froch got lucky, but a win is a win.

[PittyPat]

Roy's still coming down to 168 for Lacy, right? Well then.

[WESS]

Roy's still coming down to 168 for Lacy, right? Well then.

IDK but I can see him going after Froch. An undefeated fighter with a fresh "win" and now a "solid" fight/name in America. I think Jones VS Froch sounds better than Jones VS Lacy. But thats just me.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I'm livid Froch has just gotten a lucky KO

Why, Mr. Nouveau?


First, why is it lucky? Where, in the 12th, did Carl not make his own luck?

• "Going down himself" - ugh, was Calzaghe lucky to beat Hopkins after being floored in the 1st? Was Hamed lucky to beat Kelley after he was dropped? What about Tim Bradley, who recently was put down and won his fight with Kendall Holt? All "lucky" winners, I guess?
  
  
• "Being behind on the cards" - becomes irrelevant, when you knock the guy out.
  
  
• "And the last 14 seconds" - exactly, they didn't happen. The fight was scheduled for 12 X 3 minute rounds. Carl scored a decisive stoppage before the end of the 12th, with the referee stepping in to save Taylor from a barrage of hurtful, unanswered shots. It wasn't Chavez-Taylor. No controversy whatsoever about the stoppage.

And secondly, why would you be livid? Livid is such a strong word. Implies an intensity of feeling.

Did you put money on a Taylor decision?

If not...why are you mad?

He's also lucky Calzaghe isn't two years younger and motivated, plus that Dawson, Roy, Hopkins, Kessler all most likely won't fight him him for varying reasons, at least soon.

Why is he lucky now? Carl would jump at the chance to fight Calzaghe and Kessler. Those are fights he wants.

Reason being, all of them and even some others, beat him. So then, what is the point in talking about him so much?

Oh, I seeeeeeeeeeee. They beat him. So there's no point in "talking about him so much". Because boxing is only about guys who are 46-0. Fighters who get beat, or probably will be beat, aren't worth the time of day.

Btw, I wouldn't put money on Roy beating him at this stage. But then, I don't live in that fantasy world you do where Jones Jr. 2008 vs. Calzaghe was ever going to be a remotely competetive fight.

He loses within in 18 months I guarantee it.

Oh, WOW. Thanks for gracing us once again with your "passion" and "insight". Thanks for telling us all something we don't already know. Like "Kessler absolutely whips him" - OMFG, what a revelation. Please come by more often.


Carl Froch wears his limitations and his heart on his sleeve. He is what he is. A gritty, gutty throwback and a hell of a fighter. He gave us a dramatic, exciting knockout defeat of a highly rated American called Jermain Taylor just 5 nights ago. That is why people here are "talking about him so much". Very few have likened him to SRR off the back of the performance. But some are happy to see the man be deservedly rewarded after a frustrating road to claiming a world title and the willing he's shown to make sure serious defences happen straight away.


If Carl wasn't Joe Calzaghe's nemesis, you would not be questioning all this.

I've figured out why you're "livid". You're pissed off at Carl because he directed some professional banter at your idol. And now you're angry and bitter because Carl just had a great night.

Boo-hooooooooooooo. Boooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Look at it from my point of view. I've followed Carl since his 8th pro fight. I watched him in every hometown fight of his since winning the British Commonwealth Title and then the British SMW title. I thought that was a great achievement, especially a fighter coming from my city.

I had doubts that he'll ever be a 'World Champion', albeit an an alphabet title. When he was being avoided from many fighters, as he was too much risk, low reward, it saddened me. Then when Calzaghe vacated the WBC belt, and Carl was the number 1 challenger, i knew it was his time.

He now beats who i regarded as one of the best US boxers of decade, yet he still recieves flak. I appreciate your thoughts on his style and skill not on par with the other 168 elites, but give the man credit where it is due.

If there is one thing to bash him about, then that is the constant Calzaghe baggering. Even i am sick of it. Just remember though, that he made his first defense on US soil against a challenger who was the favourite, and that his heart was what had won him the fight. Let him have his moment.

He wants to fight the best in the division. There are many that avoid that challenge. Even if you want to see him get beat by the likes of Kessler, Pavlik or Bute, at least he is willing to make the fights happen.

Thsi guy put it best about Froch fellas. He had a good moment he lasted till the 12th round and JT faded. he was able to finish off the exhausted Taylor when the opportunity presented itself. Bully for him but call it how you see it. he is a little talent all heart. And sometimes having that much more b@lls then brains can be dangerous for your health. JT is notoriously a horrid finisher. if he were in there with a finisher he would have been minced meat. Cal it how you see it fellas little talent but brave makes for an exciting fight but very beatable....Lefty

[PittyPat]

Sure he's a 'fighter' - so is Arreola and Valero, for that matter - but that doesn't make them pleasurable to watch in the ring. At least from my perspective. I don't think it's natural to be watching a boxer and constantly feeling like cringing over his every move, whether offensive or defensive. That's what I feel when I watch the Crotch.

After the Pascal fight (and because he never mentioned Calzaghe after that one) I genuinely wanted to get into the guy and enjoy his fights, despite his obvious technical shortcomings. Unfortunately, I then watched the Rybacki fight plus some others and realised that he's simply **** to watch. Repeat for Taylor. Even if I wanted to support him, I just couldn't bring myself to do so because his style is so unbelieveably cack. Yeah he wins, just like the aforementioned Valero and Arreola, but he looks terrible in the process.

Yes, Calzaghe was also cringeworthy to watch at times but not all the time. When he wasn't showboating like an eejit or happyslapping every punch, I didn't feel any aversion to cheering for him since he had at some discipline to his craft. Froch isn't even listening to his corner half the time when they're begging and pleading with him to keep his hands up and MOVE.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Sure he's a 'fighter' - so is Arreola and Valero, for that matter - but that doesn't make them pleasurable to watch in the ring. At least from my perspective. I don't think it's natural to be watching a boxer and constantly feeling like cringing over his every move, whether offensive or defensive. That's what I feel when I watch the Crotch.

I enjoy watching Valero and Froch both. Arreola not so much, for some reason. Mileage varies. But I've got room for awkwardness. ****, I enjoy physical comedy in boxing, too. I even got a kick out of Luevano-Dib, while others were fuming.

Your reasoning is completely different from ****ting on the guy because he talked 'bad' about your favoritest fighter in the world ever. That's just saaaaaaaaaad.